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appal_jack

(3,813 posts)
25. Looking for balance here...
Mon Aug 6, 2012, 10:18 PM
Aug 2012

Given that presently, an employer has all the rights and the employee basically has none (outside the protected classes of race, gender, age, etc.) in most private places of employment, there is plenty of room for change for the better.

Have I thought out every contingency yet? Of course not. But I will stick to the idea that balance is a better option than ceding all power to capital, and depriving labor of any whatsoever.

One important balance that was already mentioned above would be the presence of more unions on job sites. At unionized workplaces, a committee review of speech-related disciplinary actions could weigh-in on whether the speech of concern really negatively influenced the job being done or not.

Regarding the customer service agent's phone calls, of course the employer has an interest in quality control of the customer service agent's job, so phone call monitoring is essential. But does the same employer get to go through their employee's bags? What about her car, parked outside in the parking lot? What about her bodily fluids (e.g. - a drug test that can also be used to ascertain pregnancy)? We have slipped pretty far down this slope, and there is no sign of slowing that I can tell.

-app

Run government like a business 90-percent Aug 2012 #1
Was Adam Smith fired for exercising his 1st Amendment rights or for being an asshole? Gidney N Cloyd Aug 2012 #2
He was fired for being an asshole twizzler Aug 2012 #4
Assholes don't have rights? slampoet Aug 2012 #12
He didn't have the right to verbally attack the employee who was working the drive through dflprincess Aug 2012 #26
Verbal attack, is that a legal term or are you making up rights? slampoet Aug 2012 #28
I guess it depends if you are on your own time or purporting to be the company loli phabay Aug 2012 #3
He was purportedly on his lunch time twizzler Aug 2012 #5
when so much is riding on your job, you job should be better protected leftyohiolib Aug 2012 #6
Sorry, but I'm not aware... MattSh Aug 2012 #14
i was refering to a more general situation of watching what you say and not to the specific individu leftyohiolib Aug 2012 #21
And this may be THE most compelling reason for an online pseudonym! . .n/t annabanana Aug 2012 #7
The Bill of Rights needs to accompany us into the workplace... appal_jack Aug 2012 #8
Your relationship with the corporation is at will and voluntary tritsofme Aug 2012 #9
Employers can regulate what you say off-hours by firing people for having opinions online. Zalatix Aug 2012 #10
A sensible opinion, until you are faced only with job opportunities with bigoted companies. Robb Aug 2012 #11
Must be nice in La La Land... appal_jack Aug 2012 #13
So should an employer need a warrant to monitor customer service agent's phone calls? tritsofme Aug 2012 #23
Looking for balance here... appal_jack Aug 2012 #25
Bullshit. You have just as much right to FREE SPEECH at work as anywhere else. The problem is CBGLuthier Aug 2012 #15
Reading Is Fundamental, my friend appal_jack Aug 2012 #19
A corporation is a little totalitarian state. Odin2005 Aug 2012 #16
Too true, at present. appal_jack Aug 2012 #22
I couldn't be more happy about no free speech in the work place. cbdo2007 Aug 2012 #17
Does the same hold true at DU? joeglow3 Aug 2012 #18
I don't think that accepting the consequences of free speech... LanternWaste Aug 2012 #20
Huh. That's the same place Democracy goes to die. Octafish Aug 2012 #24
Hey, you can say whatever you like at work mindwalker_i Aug 2012 #27
Probably off topic. Reminded me of one of my first bosses. Trillo Aug 2012 #29
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