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Lonestarblue

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51. I too think he is dangerous.
Sat Oct 13, 2018, 08:38 AM
Oct 2018

Trump’s ability to convince people to follow him is quite astonishing to those of us who are not susceptible to cult worship. More and more, Trump reminds me of Jim Jones of Peoples Temple and mass murder/suicide fame. Like Trump, Jones was described as megalomaniacal. Jones was from the Midwest (Indiana) where he anointed himself a Christian minister and established his “church” called the Peoples Temple. Is there something about some people in the Midwest, which is also Trump’s major base of support, that contributes to susceptibility to charlatans? I grew up in the Midwest/South, but I never saw examples of the adulation given to anyone like Trump.

Again like Trump, Jones promised followers a utopian existence in communal harmony (like Trump’s inferred promise of an all-white country with no immigrants), but his demands for members to turn over property, and even custody of their children, to the church caused some members to drop out and gained more public notice. From History.com: “Faced with unflattering media attention and mounting investigations, the increasingly paranoid Jones, who often wore dark sunglasses and traveled with bodyguards, invited his congregation to move with him to Guyana, where he promised them they would build a socialist utopia.”

In Guyana, Jones had armed guards who prevented followers from leaving. In 1978, the day of the mass suicide/murder, he ordered his guards to murder a U.S. Congressman and his staff who had gone to Guyana to investigate the Peoples Temple and whether U.S. citizens were being held against their will, after which he ordered the mass suicides and murders. Like Jones, Trump cares nothing for the rule of law. It’s all about him and his accumulation of wealth, but he is able to fool people into hero worship. Trump and his followers will not end as Jim Jones did, but I think Trump’s personality and lack of any moral underpinnings will allow him to order any actions that will keep him in power. The question becomes how far he can go with no repercussions before the people in Congress, law enforcement, and government institutions decide enough is enough. We will not be able to rely on Republicans. As we’re already seeing in this election, Republicans will say and do anything to be elected, and many of them are trying to be just as outrageous as Trump. We know that Republicans suppress Democratic votes. Do they also change vote counts? I suspect that someone like Brian Kemp in Georgia would.

It's the political equivalent of evangelicals testifying about being saved by their gawd malaise Oct 2018 #1
It is worse. Much worse. pangaia Oct 2018 #17
I agree malaise Oct 2018 #32
chickenshit. just say hitler like you wanted too. pansypoo53219 Oct 2018 #43
LOL malaise Oct 2018 #44
Horrible thought, but definite read this article! The New Yorker's Hortensis Oct 2018 #2
trumpft was in construction in NYC, and has russia funding on his "business" Merlot Oct 2018 #8
Yes, but he's in the "buck stops here" position now, even if Hortensis Oct 2018 #9
Money laudinering low level stuff? Merlot Oct 2018 #10
Think about it. Low level compared to Hortensis Oct 2018 #47
The "construction business in NYC" BigmanPigman Oct 2018 #34
That could be, and he and whomever he plotted murder with Hortensis Oct 2018 #48
He has said early in his fake presidency BigmanPigman Oct 2018 #57
Yes, that easy insistence on political murder as normal. Hortensis Oct 2018 #59
Trump WILL order assassinations... the day will come.. pangaia Oct 2018 #33
He already has. Haggis for Breakfast Oct 2018 #38
Yes. And that was a "no" because Asad is a head of state Hortensis Oct 2018 #53
Thanks for the info. I did not know that the Feds had intercepted info. prior to his death (assumed riversedge Oct 2018 #52
not just creating the space to do the unthinkable, actually doing the unthinkable EleanorR Oct 2018 #3
+1000. This. From a man who equates power with fear. Hortensis Oct 2018 #7
You are on the money. pangaia Oct 2018 #20
Same worries here, though a lot more hope for democarcy, Hortensis Oct 2018 #27
K&R smirkymonkey Oct 2018 #4
I don't watch his rallies bdamomma Oct 2018 #5
You don't need to listen Skidmore Oct 2018 #6
Right - I have seen MORE than enough to know Cosmocat Oct 2018 #12
Daily? pangaia Oct 2018 #21
if forced to make a choice: SCantiGOP Oct 2018 #11
Ow. Haggis for Breakfast Oct 2018 #39
We don't need to listen and we should not listen. hot2na Oct 2018 #13
actually, he's channelling 1500 radio stations, that's why he has any standing at all, and those certainot Oct 2018 #29
She is getting good cashy money to do this ugly dirty work irisblue Oct 2018 #14
"Much of the coverage of these events . . ." gratuitous Oct 2018 #15
touche... pangaia Oct 2018 #22
Beautifully and frighteningly said. nt Guy Whitey Corngood Oct 2018 #56
But does it earn him converts? malthaussen Oct 2018 #16
"You Should Too" New Yorker so Buzzfeedy violetpastille Oct 2018 #18
Sorry I can't stand to listen to his voice let alone watch him - he disgusts me. I'll read articles iluvtennis Oct 2018 #19
I can't bear to watch him, but it is absolutely necessary that someone should document & analyze... Hekate Oct 2018 #23
I may be wrong, but my gut feeling is that the primary goal, apart from the Enoki33 Oct 2018 #24
I tend to agree, true Fascism requires layers of bodyguards. gordianot Oct 2018 #26
As you say, gordianot, Haggis for Breakfast Oct 2018 #40
I too think he is dangerous. Lonestarblue Oct 2018 #51
A read of the entire piece is worthwhile. JohnnyRingo Oct 2018 #25
Rep Kelly: "retake this nation" back from people of color & women he means, back fr Obama & Hillary Bernardo de La Paz Oct 2018 #28
Don't listen, VOTE! TeamPooka Oct 2018 #30
..bleak and threatening world view...accompanied by an increasingly grandiose rewriting of history mia Oct 2018 #31
I can't listen to him. Turin_C3PO Oct 2018 #35
Me and my Losartan hear you. Haggis for Breakfast Oct 2018 #41
Seriously that's a good idea. Turin_C3PO Oct 2018 #58
You are probably correct. Haggis for Breakfast Oct 2018 #60
You'd have to pay me a helluva lot. Crunchy Frog Oct 2018 #36
Yeah, I almost listened to one Bob Loblaw Oct 2018 #37
Why do you suppose he is always cozying up to the military and the police---making sure they get Doitnow Oct 2018 #42
I don't have to watch them watoos Oct 2018 #45
It's not that I am dismissing him and his words. GoCubsGo Oct 2018 #46
Trump has been a vile demagogue, a cult leader, and ... Martin Eden Oct 2018 #49
Kicked and recommended. Uncle Joe Oct 2018 #50
K & R bookmarked FakeNoose Oct 2018 #54
Really? Like it's going to reveal something I didn't know? BootinUp Oct 2018 #55
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