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In reply to the discussion: So Ocasio-Cortez has not even taken office, and she's already planning [View all]JCanete
(5,272 posts)187. oh good lord. Because of differences between medicare and medicare for all? You realize there are
going to be differences right? And you're going to take issue with a difference that is simply about how payment is made? Welp...okay...
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So Ocasio-Cortez has not even taken office, and she's already planning [View all]
pnwmom
Nov 2018
OP
One has to behave as a new member of congress and try to learn how it all works.
dhol82
Nov 2018
#61
Sad really... AOC is the future of our party. We should be celebrating her, not denigrating her.
InAbLuEsTaTe
Nov 2018
#227
She hasn't been sworn in yet so obviously she hasn't had the opportunity to work on legislation
crazycatlady
Nov 2018
#62
I predict a short and rocky career for her unless she amends her views of how to get things done....
Hekate
Nov 2018
#4
Not really: she's helping the party. And rightwing media is attacking her
sharedvalues
Nov 2018
#156
No, it's a pissing contest to see who can piss on the latest round of popular democrats
A HERETIC I AM
Nov 2018
#37
BFD. I've been working for Democrats since 1968 when I volunteered for RFK. 50 years.
Small-Axe
Nov 2018
#172
She was out there campaigning for other Democratic candidates...not campmaigning against those
JCanete
Nov 2018
#99
NO....she was campaiging for their opponents. You clearly want to make something a negative
JCanete
Nov 2018
#101
uh....because she's fighting on issues? That's what I care about. She's not hurting our
JCanete
Nov 2018
#152
where did she call Davids a corporatist hack? Also, backing Welder is what primaries are about.
JCanete
Nov 2018
#168
"If you don't like how things are, run for office" - I did, six times. Won four, lost two
George II
Nov 2018
#73
If it wasn't for Representative Cortez I sure would not have realized that incumbents could be
still_one
Nov 2018
#75
what is your beef? Primaries are legit. If their candidates win, they win, if the candiates they
JCanete
Nov 2018
#11
AOC primaried a member of the house because she thought he needed to be. She won.
JCanete
Nov 2018
#170
based on what evidence? Do you actually have numbers to back that statement up?
JCanete
Nov 2018
#23
How do you believe that can happen unless you change the actual legal structure of some of these
JCanete
Nov 2018
#36
If, as you claim, there is "no daylight," why announce that Justice Democrats are going to primary..
Small-Axe
Nov 2018
#84
I didn't claim that. I was referring to a claim that has been made here on this board many many
JCanete
Nov 2018
#86
I don't see that as necessarily true. That needs to be meted out in an actual study. It could be
JCanete
Nov 2018
#133
I wish she'd done better because she let tapper lie without being challenged, but then
JCanete
Nov 2018
#65
I just showed you where he was absolutely wrong and you either aren't doing the math yourself
JCanete
Nov 2018
#131
its right there. Cortez accounted for 34 trillion of his number. He pretended she accounted for 2
JCanete
Nov 2018
#139
You do realize that hypothetical societal savings are not tax revenues in the real world?
Gothmog
Nov 2018
#140
No...these numbers aren't pulled out of the fucking air. They aren't magical, and the 32 trillion
JCanete
Nov 2018
#141
nobody said there wouldn't be more taxes. There's nothign to admit to. Taht's part of the fucking
JCanete
Nov 2018
#158
Where did she deny this? She said that this would save people money, which it should. Which the
JCanete
Nov 2018
#169
Taxes are literally talked about. Nobody denies that they would be raised. I have no
JCanete
Nov 2018
#174
what are you talking about? Cortez identifies 2 trillion in savings to Americans
JCanete
Nov 2018
#176
Jesus Christ...I gave you a drop the mic opportunity. You could quote it in black and white and go
JCanete
Nov 2018
#178
Why would it have to be done that way? That makes no bloody sense. I don't pay monthly taxes,
JCanete
Nov 2018
#180
why would medicare for all have to work that way? This is a simple process question. nt
JCanete
Nov 2018
#183
oh good lord. Because of differences between medicare and medicare for all? You realize there are
JCanete
Nov 2018
#187
Dude, this wasn't dodgeball. I served it up. All you had to do was spike it, but you've simply
JCanete
Nov 2018
#186
I wonder if Sanders, Cortez, or anyone advocating for Medicare for All, who are saying that it...
George II
Nov 2018
#199
You drop into a four-day old discussion and begin by immediately calling me a liar?
George II
Nov 2018
#223
Did you quote somebody saying this wouldn't be paid for by taxes? There are two different
JCanete
Nov 2018
#237
You've got about 20 posts in this discussion. I presume you've read your way through many others...
George II
Nov 2018
#240
Again, George, who has said that this is going to be accomplished without raised taxes?
JCanete
Nov 2018
#270
You answer the question in the post to which you first responded, and then I'll reciprocate. Deal?
George II
Nov 2018
#272
Sure, and that wasn't a thought-out answer, except that savings to the American people is
JCanete
Nov 2018
#273
One more time (I believe this is the third time) - do you know how Medicare works?
George II
Nov 2018
#274
That's a ridiculously broad question. Certainly not enough to personally implement it.
JCanete
Nov 2018
#280
It's not a ridiculously broad question, and since you're here acting like you know all about it...
George II
Nov 2018
#281
I'm not sure what you're dissecting with any of that information, since nobody at all
JCanete
Nov 2018
#282
See post #271. Are you ever going to answer my question: "do you know how Medicare works"?
George II
Nov 2018
#275
Well we know where the 32 trillion figure comes from. That's the Koch study figure of how
JCanete
Nov 2018
#150
We don't really know how much Americans spend on healthcare. All of these numbers...
George II
Nov 2018
#153
I have to admit, I like the diversity, and maybe my own bit of pique is due to age...mine and hers.
libdem4life
Nov 2018
#13
She is taking office because she defeated a long-standing Democrat in a primary
oberliner
Nov 2018
#20
She needs to wise up and learn from the pros. She might wind up in the commitee in
demosincebirth
Nov 2018
#38
I remember their attacks, but couldn't think of who they supported - wasn't it Laura Moser?
George II
Nov 2018
#251
I am still waiting for an answer as to what sanders and AOC did in Texas to help
Gothmog
Nov 2018
#277
Lots of questions go unanswered in these discussions. Unfortunately people throw things out....
George II
Nov 2018
#278
She's the one who complained a few days after the primary, claiming that Crowley was...
George II
Nov 2018
#225
So you're (incorrectly) criticizing someone for saying the same things as all those outlets say...
George II
Nov 2018
#224
Cortez' own organization, Justice Democrats, called it a "protest". Check their twitter feed.
George II
Nov 2018
#268
What other "Democrats" are attacking her? Is it an "attack" or honest, constructive criticism?
George II
Nov 2018
#222
So, I ask again, which Democrats are doing the "attacking" or "smears"? I'm sure...
George II
Nov 2018
#242
AOC campaigned against Sharice Davids this cycle which shows some poor judgement
Gothmog
Nov 2018
#47
"Some on here are trying to stigmatize and shut down all dissent that is not in lock-step with
betsuni
Nov 2018
#191
its shame the rightwing media is going to push all forms of discourse and we democrats must be
beachbum bob
Nov 2018
#57
amazing isn't it. After the amazing Democratic gains in the House, this is the unifying message she
still_one
Nov 2018
#77
What is it with extremsits creating these agencies? I'm not exactly sure why your confident that an
JCanete
Nov 2018
#283
That suggests that we couldn't enforce our borders previously, before ICE was a thing.
JCanete
Nov 2018
#285
Your OP reminded me of a story a European friend heard from his grandfather about WW I
DFW
Nov 2018
#107
Focus on the crooks and the nazis the Rs just elected...not the Dems that we did.
pecosbob
Nov 2018
#143
She also campaigned against Lacy Clay, who wound up winning the primary by 20% and then...
George II
Nov 2018
#231