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9. Lost twice, plus she's getting older

Reply to jalan48 (Reply #6)

Thu Nov 22, 2018, 01:46 PM

Nov 2018

It just doesn't make sense for her to try it again.

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So Hillary cant even CONSIDER running again? [View all] Eliot Rosewater Nov 2018 OP

I don't want her to run Just a Weirdo Nov 2018 #1

BULLSHIT!!!! bluestarone Nov 2018 #4

And people are entitled to their opinions. babylonsister Nov 2018 #52

I agree with you. metroins Nov 2018 #85

Another no Auggie Nov 2018 #101

Mine too... big time NO WAY!! InAbLuEsTaTe Nov 2018 #176

The poster is in no way Mariana Nov 2018 #89

TRUE and my post WAS NOT responding to the original poster? bluestarone Nov 2018 #91

Yes. Mariana Nov 2018 #95

Your right and i bluestarone Nov 2018 #100

I don't either, but she can consider it if she wants. The Velveteen Ocelot Nov 2018 #5

That's up to her, don't you think? lunamagica Nov 2018 #36

Jimmy Carter can't run again SCantiGOP Nov 2018 #83

I think the OP is silly but your answer is wrong Jim Lane Nov 2018 #189

The OP said SCantiGOP Nov 2018 #202

OK, I didn't distinguish it the way you did Jim Lane Nov 2018 #212

Your not wanting her to run.. NastyRiffraff Nov 2018 #126

Hillary Won the Election Last Time - What's Wrong with a Proven Winner? dlk Nov 2018 #208

I think she's probably... Mike Nelson Nov 2018 #2

I cant think of any who are ruled out, even the much older ones. Eliot Rosewater Nov 2018 #3

Even on DU, many have been unwitting victims Jakes Progress Nov 2018 #113

Or Sanders, or Biden. And neither of them ran a primary basically unchallenged, and a 3 million win. Wintryjade Nov 2018 #7

She's run for President and lost twice. Do we have any male candidates wanting to run who have the jalan48 Nov 2018 #6

Lost twice, plus she's getting older Zing Zing Zingbah Nov 2018 #9

The four top names usually mentioned here are all nearing 80. Bfd Nov 2018 #50

She's only 71. That's at least five years younger than two of the Democratic.... George II Nov 2018 #109

Thanks George. See! Hillary doesn't fit that "she's too old" bs afterall. Bfd Nov 2018 #154

Absolutely, lost not just twice, but twice in a row...her decision not to run again is a wise one. InAbLuEsTaTe Nov 2018 #182

Biden violetpastille Nov 2018 #14

Thanks for this info. I forgot he ran in 1987 jalan48 Nov 2018 #18

Biden Renew Deal Nov 2018 #16

Is twice needed? Bernie ran and lost even the primary treestar Nov 2018 #53

Hillary twice for President in eight years. Biden also. Kerry once and Bernie once I believe. jalan48 Nov 2018 #65

Many of those mentioned here (Biden, Sanders, Kerry, and Clinton).... George II Nov 2018 #111

I think every candidate deserves a second chance, like Hillary had. InAbLuEsTaTe Nov 2018 #183

If the thread was a former Kerry aide saying he was in, you would get the same negatives karynnj Nov 2018 #195

No, she lost once. You are counting her primary run. Uder that criteria, IIRC, Nixon lost lunamagica Nov 2018 #70

Biden ran in 1988 and 2008. n/t pnwmom Nov 2018 #86

She lost because of a very flawed system and Bob factors liberal N proud Nov 2018 #132

Shouldn't have been close against a candidate like Trump and California was the main reason for jalan48 Nov 2018 #136

Did you forget, trump had a little help? liberal N proud Nov 2018 #144

If we're going to win in 2020 we will need a very dynamic candidate. Not fair, but it's reality. jalan48 Nov 2018 #153

Very true... we need to pick a candidate who can inspire voters to overwhelmingly defeat InAbLuEsTaTe Nov 2018 #177

Biden EffieBlack Nov 2018 #171

Sounds like you just want to stir it up today Pisces Nov 2018 #8

I am sorry if openly supporting Hilary Clinton on Democratic Underground bugs you... Eliot Rosewater Nov 2018 #12

If Hillary were to run again I'd be behind her GWC58 Nov 2018 #39

Right elleng Nov 2018 #28

I see OPs here all the time mcar Nov 2018 #43

Good question. Somehow suggesting Hillary is stirring things up?? Bfd Nov 2018 #48

It's not really Newland56 Nov 2018 #125

Stir what up? The question is pretty simple Bfd Nov 2018 #46

You want a name? Here's one: Bernie 'Get off my lawn you damned kids' Sanders. elocs Nov 2018 #10

I would hope he wouldn't run again too. Zing Zing Zingbah Nov 2018 #13

Yeah and he's not a Democrat, he's an GWC58 Nov 2018 #41

She can consider it if she wants Lotusflower70 Nov 2018 #11

No. It's over for her Renew Deal Nov 2018 #15

Its over for bernie too. We have some amazing people to choose from Bfd Nov 2018 #71

+1 BootinUp Nov 2018 #80

I hope so Renew Deal Nov 2018 #108

I think so too... Hillary made a wise choice to bow out of politics gracefully. InAbLuEsTaTe Nov 2018 #180

I think it would be a stroke of genius for HRC to announce a bid for the Presidency. Aristus Nov 2018 #17

Except she doesn't deserve any more babylonsister Nov 2018 #88

I'll answer: Al Gore, John Kerry and Mike Dukakis... brooklynite Nov 2018 #19

Please point out the stories, talking heads saying they cant run or the Eliot Rosewater Nov 2018 #21

Hello Eliot Rosewater.... Small-Axe Nov 2018 #31

umm brer cat Nov 2018 #140

The point---if it wasn't obvious enough--was that HHH never ran for president again... Small-Axe Nov 2018 #163

So are you saying that IF any of those male individuals did run again LiberalLovinLug Nov 2018 #96

Not just tried twice and lost... twice in a row. InAbLuEsTaTe Nov 2018 #185

She didn't fucking lose 2016 and everyone saying so in this thread knows it. MrsCoffee Nov 2018 #197

It will be a short thread TheFarseer Nov 2018 #146

I disagree that Kerry lost because of badly run campaign. It was a tough year for us karynnj Nov 2018 #44

I worked on his campaign and I couldn't tell you what his message was... brooklynite Nov 2018 #115

I was blown away by one speech where he connected working to fight climate change karynnj Nov 2018 #128

You shut him good and proper. Thanks. John Fante Nov 2018 #139

Thanks to you and I agree he is very underrated karynnj Nov 2018 #147

Were they told to go away? mcar Nov 2018 #45

Poorly Managed?? That's the reason you give why the EC didn't vote her way? Bfd Nov 2018 #56

Yes I would... brooklynite Nov 2018 #117

What lost the election wasn't mismanagement, it was the unbalanced electoral college. George II Nov 2018 #131

See: Obama 2008, Obama 2012 brooklynite Nov 2018 #135

That's just silly FBaggins Nov 2018 #206

Beto and Stacy ran amazing campaigns .... so did Andrew down in Florida. LenaBaby61 Nov 2018 #124

I'd love to see Gore run again lunamagica Nov 2018 #72

Gore lost nine States won by Clinton; winning any one would have made FL irrelevant brooklynite Nov 2018 #123

I would love her to run again, and win, to stick it to the Republicans. The problem is if she runs OnDoutside Nov 2018 #20

I like the SoS idea. Put the fear of God in Putin. brush Nov 2018 #34

That would be revenge served nice and hot ! Putin would be crapping himself, 4 years of a world of OnDoutside Nov 2018 #47

YES! Hillary would be "great again" as S.O.S. maddiemom Nov 2018 #110

I doubt she would accept the nomination again karynnj Nov 2018 #129

who said she can't consider? qazplm135 Nov 2018 #22

Practically everyone says she cant, and almost NONE of them say that about the other person Eliot Rosewater Nov 2018 #23

She can consider all she wants qazplm135 Nov 2018 #152

Good question Takket Nov 2018 #24

Exactly, you notice her name isnt even brought up as possible candidates. Eliot Rosewater Nov 2018 #26

I'd love it if Bernie would not consider running again. NightWatcher Nov 2018 #25

+10000 ProudLib72 Nov 2018 #54

"Lets play a game, which men CANT even consider running again? Either party. " Jarqui Nov 2018 #27

Of course she can run again. It is just that Hillary has said she wouldn't. Does that mean she still_one Nov 2018 #29

I'm in: Biden, Sanders and trump. brush Nov 2018 #30

They're almost 80. If HRC is "too old" what are these guys. Bfd Nov 2018 #61

That's what I'm saying. We Dems have done well with candidates... brush Nov 2018 #74

Exactly. So bye to Biden, Bernie, Warren, Clinton ...etc Bfd Nov 2018 #81

Bernie and Joe's ages are frequently brought up, and not John Fante Nov 2018 #141

And the fact of the matter is that with age comes mental and physical decline. Garrett78 Nov 2018 #148

I don't think I have ever heard anyone say she can't run. Of course she can. dameatball Nov 2018 #32

You haven't heard anyone say it. Mariana Nov 2018 #92

I see your point. ananda Nov 2018 #33

Interesting ProudLib72 Nov 2018 #59

So if a candidate has run & lost the they are off the 2020 list?? Bfd Nov 2018 #66

I think she is phenomenal ProudLib72 Nov 2018 #73

Lol..damn the hypocrisy is waist deep out there ..wtf Bfd Nov 2018 #76

You're catching on! ProudLib72 Nov 2018 #79

Its exhausting to witness day after day. Bfd Nov 2018 #82

I see a lot of people saying Beto shouldn't run for President..including Beto. aikoaiko Nov 2018 #116

Sometimes our losers turn out to be winners! ananda Nov 2018 #209

Kerry & Romney can't run again. KWR65 Nov 2018 #35

They can, but likely won't. MarvinGardens Nov 2018 #160

Here is a lady who would win against Trump..Michelle Obama.. Stuart G Nov 2018 #37

I would be very happy to vote for her. In_The_Wind Nov 2018 #38

No question there... Michelle is an inspirational leader & would make a great 1st female President. InAbLuEsTaTe Nov 2018 #178

name for me please lapfog_1 Nov 2018 #40

And I'm convinced that Nixon would have lost for a second time to a man named Kennedy... Small-Axe Nov 2018 #64

Had Johnson succeeded in ending the war, even Humphrey would have won lapfog_1 Nov 2018 #67

very true borgesian Nov 2018 #78

true... but most were discouraged by their party from running again lapfog_1 Nov 2018 #87

Yup. That was my understanding as well. borgesian Nov 2018 #97

Right? mcar Nov 2018 #42

name the one who lost, ran again, and then won. lapfog_1 Nov 2018 #60

But that's not the issue, is it? mcar Nov 2018 #63

The facts are that the electorate doesn't like a "loser" lapfog_1 Nov 2018 #69

Who said she can't consider it? TCJ70 Nov 2018 #49

anyone who suggest Bernie, even older than Hillary treestar Nov 2018 #51

+1,000 NastyRiffraff Nov 2018 #127

Hillary Clinton is five years younger than Sanders, and women live five years longer than men... George II Nov 2018 #137

Love it treestar Nov 2018 #145

Not so FBaggins Nov 2018 #207

She'd get nowhere. TheCowsCameHome Nov 2018 #55

The decision not to run again has already been made. InAbLuEsTaTe Nov 2018 #187

I hope she does not Marrah_Goodman Nov 2018 #57

Of course she can consider running. Progressive dog Nov 2018 #58

She has already considered it. GoCubsGo Nov 2018 #62

I do and admire her bowing out gracefully. InAbLuEsTaTe Nov 2018 #186

I think she just didn't want to put herself through that again. GoCubsGo Nov 2018 #190

Yes, Hillary gave it her all the last two times she ran and lost to political newcomers. InAbLuEsTaTe Nov 2018 #193

If Hillary announces, she immediately gets $500 from me. All other Dems oasis Nov 2018 #68

Mee too! Bfd Nov 2018 #75

Of course she can, if she wishes. I doubt she will, though. MineralMan Nov 2018 #77

There's a difference between can and should Mr. Ected Nov 2018 #84

Depends on who you ask right? People have certainly said Sanders "wouldn't be allowed...." JCanete Nov 2018 #90

Harold Stassen Nasruddin Nov 2018 #93

Hillary can do whatever she wants to do but the truth is that it would give Trump the foil that r/o BlueInRedHell Nov 2018 #94

I don't want her to run for President. She should be appointed to SCOTUS. bitterross Nov 2018 #98

Hope she won't. zentrum Nov 2018 #99

It's not just her. Biden and Sanders need to forget about it too. BlueStater Nov 2018 #102

Biden was on a winning ticket twice as VP. Small-Axe Nov 2018 #114

We can do a lot better than a nearly 80 year old man. BlueStater Nov 2018 #121

Bad thinking on your part, methinks... Small-Axe Nov 2018 #156

Him dying in office isn't exactly a great selling point. BlueStater Nov 2018 #158

Bye now. Small-Axe Nov 2018 #159

You didn't like my answer, so now you're going to be rude and dismissive. BlueStater Nov 2018 #161

No are think you are being rude and dismissive and are absolutely dead wrong... Small-Axe Nov 2018 #162

You initiated this conversation and don't like that your opinion isn't shared. BlueStater Nov 2018 #165

Saying that "dying in office isn't a selling point" on JFK's death anniversary... Small-Axe Nov 2018 #166

Whatever, Mr. Been-here-for-a-month. BlueStater Nov 2018 #169

Post removed Post removed Nov 2018 #170

I hope you do figure it out. BlueStater Nov 2018 #172

Yes, Biden is a proven two-time winner and, for that, definitely deserves another InAbLuEsTaTe Nov 2018 #194

People don't vote for VP. Obama won those contests. Garrett78 Nov 2018 #201

Except that Bernie has more energy and vitality than most 50-year-olds. InAbLuEsTaTe Nov 2018 #213

"which men CANT even consider running again?" Tarc Nov 2018 #103

None of the following redixdoragon Nov 2018 #104

Oh. murielm99 Nov 2018 #142

Of course she can consider it, but she shouldn't run. SMC22307 Nov 2018 #105

Her trustworthiness ratings were absolutely abysmal GitRDun Nov 2018 #106

Bernie Could Have Won ConnorMarc Nov 2018 #215

Thanks. Your perspective isn't popular here, but LibDemAlways Nov 2018 #218

Of course Hillary can run again ... but jb5150 Nov 2018 #107

Gore went through this in 2004 zaj Nov 2018 #112

A lot of people have said Bernie and Biden shouldn't run. aikoaiko Nov 2018 #118

Anyone can run Andy823 Nov 2018 #119

Question To The OP ConnorMarc Nov 2018 #120

Good question melman Nov 2018 #134

Says who? DFW Nov 2018 #122

Ageism. Joe941 Nov 2018 #130

With age comes mental and physical decline. That's just a fact of life. Garrett78 Nov 2018 #149

It is what it is - Baby Boomers are no longer the biggest voting bloc. Algernon Moncrieff Nov 2018 #175

She can do anything she wants to Bettie Nov 2018 #133

Here are a few Separation Nov 2018 #138

Mike Dukakis Al Gore John Kerry. Voltaire2 Nov 2018 #143

The correct answer... clementine613 Nov 2018 #150

Anyone over 70 whistler162 Nov 2018 #151

Pretty much this Algernon Moncrieff Nov 2018 #174

Obama krawhitham Nov 2018 #155

Hillary has been running for president since 2000 Azathoth Nov 2018 #157

Michelle would represent women well... don't see how she would lose. InAbLuEsTaTe Nov 2018 #181

She would "lose" if she were elected Algernon Moncrieff Nov 2018 #196

I'm assuming you meant to say 2008. She didn't run in 2000 or 2004. Garrett78 Nov 2018 #188

No, she's been running since 2000 Azathoth Nov 2018 #211

Your description of her fine Senate career is incorrect. She ran for Senate to serve in the Senate. StevieM Nov 2018 #216

Do we really want to go through the whole Hillary / Bernie shit again? Initech Nov 2018 #164

She can run, but I doubt I will support her in the primary Marrah_Goodman Nov 2018 #167

She can, but probably should not, and probably won't. MarvinGardens Nov 2018 #168

Precisely!! Why Bernie deserves another chance, should he decide InAbLuEsTaTe Nov 2018 #184

Anyone can consider running. Algernon Moncrieff Nov 2018 #173

Agreed. See post #148. Garrett78 Nov 2018 #179

Although I can understand someone wanting a new face, Hortensis Nov 2018 #191

I agree that Hillary Clinton is an excellent candidate Algernon Moncrieff Nov 2018 #198

:) Well, here's a counterargument to your counter. Hortensis Nov 2018 #210

I don't think this has anything to do with gender. Vinca Nov 2018 #192

SIGH. OK, if you insist - when T Barrett made noise about possibly running for a third time against Kashkakat v.2.0 Nov 2018 #199

Hillary Clinton has every right to consider running again Gothmog Nov 2018 #200

If anybody watched Murhpy Brown last night then realized this did NOT have to happen Eliot Rosewater Nov 2018 #204

again, vagina. n/t librechik Nov 2018 #203

She won the first time. I want her to run again sellitman Nov 2018 #205

Any American, male or female over the age of 35 can run for president and there is no Autumn Nov 2018 #214

I voted for her, I'd vote for her again. But I worry about the people that would vote against her. LakeSuperiorView Nov 2018 #217