So Hillary cant even CONSIDER running again?

[karynnj]

195. If the thread was a former Kerry aide saying he was in, you would get the same negatives

They happened in all the media speculating threads. Not to mention, he was thrashed here on DU when he considered running in 2008 with at least the intensity as the negativity now on a Clinton run. As to his comments, after a few where he pretty unambiguously said he was doing nothing to run, he intentionally repeated a comment that it was 2018 that should be talked about.

As to who might be more likely considering a run, google hillaryclinton.com, joebiden.com and johnkerry.com. Two are alive. Kerry shut down his when he started as SoS and has not restored it. In 2006, I thought Kerry could pull it off if it came down to just Hillary and himself. With Kerry/Feingold, he was better positioned on the issues and by far the best debater i've seen. I also thought his strength in meeting people one to one in Iowa and NH which made him the winner in 2004 could work again in 2008. Additionally, swiftboating had evolved to mean a disgusting lie that smears a person for political purposes and Kerry was seen as a very clean politician.

Though my respect has only increased, I doubt he will run and if he did, I assume he would not win the nomination. He is too old, even though he is as sharp as ever and likely more physically fit than people decades younger. I do hope that whichever Democrat wins uses these many elder statesmen to restore our country.

I think until one of the next generation catches fire, Biden and Sanders will poll on top because of name recognition. If Hillary Clinton were included, she likely would too.

I think for many Democrats, one other thing thing that works against her is that she is seen as the one heavily pushed by the PTB twice. You might remember in 2005 many here attacked Kerry as being the person they voted for only because he was seen as likely to win. This even though, Dean, Edwards and Clark all had more media support before Iowa.

I suspect that Sanders will drop as soon as Warren or Sherrod Brown or anyone else who could be seen as from the progressive wing enters. Biden is a proxy for Obama supporters. It is hard to imagine him staying that high as he is shown at rallies in NH and Iowa.