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Hortensis

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65. Right. Like Nixon, the time will be right when

Sat Dec 8, 2018, 08:26 AM

Dec 2018

there is bipartisan agreement that it must happen. For most of 2 years, voters refused to believe it would and even reelected Nixon by a good margin in the middle of investigation.

Perhaps 1/3 of conservative voters on board is a rough figure I heard. This is a democracy, and one party does not eject the president the other party believes it elected and still firmly supports. Not unless the real goal is to kick a big hole in the hull of the ship of state.

And for anyone who wants to bring up Bill Clinton's impeachment, remember, the Republican-controlled congress was that viciously irresponsible and got their asses handed to them in the midterms for their trouble. Newtie had to get a new career selling fake awards and cancer cures.

We have no Newties in our leadership. We're different. Very.

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Damn Laurence O'Donnell is being a d*ck tonight [View all] Trumpocalypse Dec 2018 OP

?? how so? Roland99 Dec 2018 #1

Not getting a conviction in the Senate would backfire... Garrett78 Dec 2018 #2

No responsible Prosecutor would bring changes Trumpocalypse Dec 2018 #8

Never is a long time jberryhill Dec 2018 #12

Agreed. We have no idea what's going to be in Mueller's report. pnwmom Dec 2018 #31

Right. Like Nixon, the time will be right when Hortensis Dec 2018 #65

Well said. OnDoutside Dec 2018 #81

That's a false equivalence. No responsible prosecutor faces a "jury" of corrupt cultists Azathoth Dec 2018 #35

No they will be heroes to the FAUX News crowd Trumpocalypse Dec 2018 #43

As if impeaching or not impeaching has any bearing on those folks. Garrett78 Dec 2018 #60

It won't Trumpocalypse Dec 2018 #68

They are already heroes to those folks. Impeachment doesn't require the support of Trump's base. Garrett78 Dec 2018 #80

No but it requires 67 votes in the Senate Trumpocalypse Dec 2018 #86

Screw the FAUX news crowd uponit7771 Dec 2018 #111

Sure Trumpocalypse Dec 2018 #114

Fire them up, they do ... NOT ... have the political critical mass to mean anything outside of the.. uponit7771 Dec 2018 #116

Is that why the GOP gained seats in the Senate? Trumpocalypse Dec 2018 #118

Partially, take out the ... OBVIOUS ... BS in Florida and GA and they don't gain anything uponit7771 Dec 2018 #120

Maybe Trumpocalypse Dec 2018 #124

Amen Laura PourMeADrink Dec 2018 #93

+1 uponit7771 Dec 2018 #110

First off, we don't know what the charges will be krispos42 Dec 2018 #61

I agree wait and see Trumpocalypse Dec 2018 #67

Wait for more info, of course. But so many are saying to Laura PourMeADrink Dec 2018 #94

Yeah, well, some people want to keep the powder so dry... krispos42 Dec 2018 #109

Wow..re: powder dry ...what a brilliant poetic statement. Laura PourMeADrink Dec 2018 #117

I think you're right, Garrett78. Qutzupalotl Dec 2018 #18

It depends. RDANGELO Dec 2018 #21

Well said n/t malaise Dec 2018 #58

+1. John Dean just called for impeachment. Laura PourMeADrink Dec 2018 #92

One way, or the other GWC58 Dec 2018 #119

I do not believe impeaching Trump is political suicide standingtall Dec 2018 #3

No. sheshe2 Dec 2018 #6

Thanks Trumpocalypse Dec 2018 #13

Thanks back attya, Trumpocalypse!!! sheshe2 Dec 2018 #15

I suspect almost everyone here KNOWS that impeachment req. 218 votes in the House. napi21 Dec 2018 #16

There are real crimes JonLP24 Dec 2018 #19

The GOP is no longer just partisan. sheshe2 Dec 2018 #24

And this is why we need Pelosi grantcart Dec 2018 #25

Correct! sheshe2 Dec 2018 #26

Will it be on the midterm? grantcart Dec 2018 #27

Oh no....not you saying that. :( Laura PourMeADrink Dec 2018 #96

Dems shouldn't move on this now and when/if they do, must have an endgame EffieBlack Dec 2018 #33

Exactly! nt Raine Dec 2018 #38

Almost exactly the words of Laurence Tribe canetoad Dec 2018 #34

Where in the constitution does it say they get ONE shot? Azathoth Dec 2018 #36

+1 uponit7771 Dec 2018 #112

I did not claim that there would be 67 senators to convict standingtall Dec 2018 #37

Is there some law he can only be impeached once? eShirl Dec 2018 #52

Naive approach - trump has committed federal crimes. Laura PourMeADrink Dec 2018 #95

It's the duty of the house. Scruffy1 Dec 2018 #72

Wrong. Wrong. Wrong. manor321 Dec 2018 #4

Thank you. H2O Man Dec 2018 #5

Please tell me where we have 67 votes in the Senate. sheshe2 Dec 2018 #9

We have 49 right now, working on 18 more.... pbmus Dec 2018 #51

The number 67 is irrelevant right now. KPN Dec 2018 #79

Until the republicans change their tune... sheshe2 Dec 2018 #17

Yes romana Dec 2018 #20

Exactly Sugarcoated Dec 2018 #40

What is worse? Trumpocalypse Dec 2018 #44

Exactly. Impeachment is on the table. The only KPN Dec 2018 #78

+1 uponit7771 Dec 2018 #113

I agree with him rufus dog Dec 2018 #7

Hearings are one thing Trumpocalypse Dec 2018 #10

You are correct. sheshe2 Dec 2018 #29

Perhaps or perhaps not. Caliman73 Dec 2018 #30

i Agree Me. Dec 2018 #11

This message was self-deleted by its author JonLP24 Dec 2018 #14

Lawrence is right. The House "Impeaches" 67 votes in the Senate are required for "removal" allgood33 Dec 2018 #22

+1000 Pachamama Dec 2018 #77

I watched Lawrence tonight.... chillfactor Dec 2018 #23

Unless there is a possibility of getting 67 votes Trumpocalypse Dec 2018 #28

Without 67 votes in the Senate redstateblues Dec 2018 #32

No it would not it would make republicans in the senate complicit standingtall Dec 2018 #39

Lawrence is the man Sugarcoated Dec 2018 #41

So you want Trump re-elected Trumpocalypse Dec 2018 #45

I don't agree that it will reelect him Sugarcoated Dec 2018 #46

It will fire up his base Trumpocalypse Dec 2018 #47

He needs more than his base to get re-elected. Sugarcoated Dec 2018 #48

Thank you. SammyWinstonJack Dec 2018 #56

No he doesn't Trumpocalypse Dec 2018 #62

He didn't just get elected with his base, though Sugarcoated Dec 2018 #88

They are still part of his base Trumpocalypse Dec 2018 #89

Some, not all. Sugarcoated Dec 2018 #90

Not as many as you think. Trumpocalypse Dec 2018 #99

Not how I see it Sugarcoated Dec 2018 #101

See it or Trumpocalypse Dec 2018 #105

Uh huh Sugarcoated Dec 2018 #122

Indies and moderates will turn on us Sugarcoated Dec 2018 #49

Some maybe Trumpocalypse Dec 2018 #91

You're lumping all people who voted for Trump as his unshakable base Sugarcoated Dec 2018 #97

Most are Trumpocalypse Dec 2018 #98

I guess we'll have to agree to disagree Sugarcoated Dec 2018 #100

You can "agree to disagree" Trumpocalypse Dec 2018 #104

Uh huh Sugarcoated Dec 2018 #121

When are they not fired up? eShirl Dec 2018 #53

Exactly. SammyWinstonJack Dec 2018 #57

So let's fire them up even more? Trumpocalypse Dec 2018 #106

No matter what crimes this horrible idiot commits onetexan Dec 2018 #102

Unless Trumpocalypse Dec 2018 #103

that's BS onetexan Dec 2018 #107

Maybe so Trumpocalypse Dec 2018 #123

you are exaggerating JI7 Dec 2018 #42

So we should just ignore a crime against our nation? RhodeIslandOne Dec 2018 #50

No he can be prosecuted after he leaves office Trumpocalypse Dec 2018 #63

You are basically saying Trump can whatever he pleases RhodeIslandOne Dec 2018 #71

Don't put words in my mouth Trumpocalypse Dec 2018 #75

And because there's no chance of conviction ever..... RhodeIslandOne Dec 2018 #82

Not what I said. Trumpocalypse Dec 2018 #85

The notion that impeaching Trump and having Republican senators keep him in office... regnaD kciN Dec 2018 #54

It will Trumpocalypse Dec 2018 #66

Impeachment wouldn't be popular Awsi Dooger Dec 2018 #55

O'Donnell tried to get Steve Cohen to say DeminPennswoods Dec 2018 #59

I agree with Cohen Sunsky Dec 2018 #69

Well said Trumpocalypse Dec 2018 #70

I think we have to wait for the full Mueller report before deciding anything. Vinca Dec 2018 #64

Exactly Trumpocalypse Dec 2018 #76

As usual, Laurence O'Donnell speaks for me. (nt) Paladin Dec 2018 #73

First, we better make sure we have the votes in the House. There are Democrats in red districts that Hoyt Dec 2018 #74

This message was self-deleted by its author pecosbob Dec 2018 #83

I have to disagree with those that say that impeachment without 67 is pointless pecosbob Dec 2018 #84

Better to let the people vote him out in 20 Trumpocalypse Dec 2018 #87

i want to see Muellers report.. if theres a clear crime then i vote YES! samnsara Dec 2018 #108

But you won't be voting Trumpocalypse Dec 2018 #115