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mr_lebowski

(33,643 posts)
3. Not a fan of this message, though I like Ted's messages on the vast majority of issues ...
Sat Dec 29, 2018, 04:16 PM
Dec 2018

This sort of cockiness isn't going to play well.

Democrats should be focusing upon their ideas for MUCH BETTER BORDER SECURITY, using cheaper, and more high-tech alternatives, as opposed to 'technology that was only sometimes effective 1000 years ago'.

They shouldn't be making this about Trump and his vanity, they should be hyping that they offered $1.6B to enhance Border Security in a much more cost-effective way.

They should also be harping that the REAL COST of the so-called Wall is estimated to be about $25B, not $5B, and that's not counting maintenance. $5B barely makes a dent on the project.

They should be talking about how easily thwarted a Wall is ... by TUNNELS, and LADDERS, and ROPES.

They ought to constantly mention the fact that the vast majority of people here 'illegally' actually came here legally and overstayed, NOT by scurrying across our Southern Border. They should be pointing out that large numbers that DO cross the border ... do so by stowing away on Commercial vehicles that are otherwise legally engaging in Commerce.

They should point out that illegal border crossings ... have already been falling for decades, without our having built a monstrous, overpriced WALL.

They should HAMMER the fact that a WALL WILL NOT WORK, and is thus a HUGE waste of money ... BUT that they are VERY willing to fund OTHER, more cost-effective alternatives, options that will move technology forward and perhaps provide new products we could export to other Countries around the world who are looking to enhance their own Border Sec, etc, while also keeping our own Border ... even MORE secure.

K & R! 50 Shades Of Blue Dec 2018 #1
Heh heh thegoose Dec 2018 #2
Not a fan of this message, though I like Ted's messages on the vast majority of issues ... mr_lebowski Dec 2018 #3
We can't do both? (Cry?) BootinUp Dec 2018 #5
I think playing into his game of making it look like a pissing contest is a bad ploy (nt) mr_lebowski Dec 2018 #6
Mr_lebowski... we tried playing nice PeeJ52 Dec 2018 #17
It says many good things about you that you'd assume I'm concerned about 'being nice' ... mr_lebowski Dec 2018 #20
nope, its a good ploy, fight fire with fire, be as mean and nasty as the fascists elmac Dec 2018 #19
The problem is ... that is NOT as mean and nasty as they are ... mr_lebowski Dec 2018 #21
Vanity wall is exactly what it is. Glad to see them framing it as such. nt Doremus Dec 2018 #7
That's as it may be ... however, his 'angle' is to make it appear as though our opposition mr_lebowski Dec 2018 #8
How about Nancy Pelosi saying his plan is down to a bead curtain by now? Or that it's about... Hekate Dec 2018 #10
I'm not arguing for 'civility for civilities sake' .. I would hope people at least know me THAT well mr_lebowski Dec 2018 #11
I agree. trev Dec 2018 #12
More likely his Scarsdale Dec 2018 #16
A jab from Lieu along the lines of mr_lebowski Dec 2018 #25
Totally agree with your posts on this thread Raven123 Dec 2018 #26
Love Lieu, but agree, this is exactly the kind of statement that the "NOT DEAD YET" will turn... BamaRefugee Dec 2018 #13
The "not dead yet" already do everything in their power to speak against us... Ferrets are Cool Dec 2018 #15
I get what you're saying, but I thnk it's a deliberate tactic that wouldn't be used w/any other pres DRoseDARs Dec 2018 #23
I didn't mean to make it sound like we have to play it completely 'straight' here ... mr_lebowski Dec 2018 #24
Hmmm... well, your arguments do make sense, although calimary Dec 2018 #29
Eat that! BootinUp Dec 2018 #4
Correction, not we, but representatives of the people... ffr Dec 2018 #9
This is the fuckhead's response to all the working people (including contractors and SB's) that Ferrets are Cool Dec 2018 #14
Gollum speaks about his precioussssss Hermit-The-Prog Dec 2018 #18
Give it up, dipshit. smirkymonkey Dec 2018 #22
drumpf's vanity insanity wall. democratisphere Dec 2018 #27
Yaaaassss! yuiyoshida Dec 2018 #28
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