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In reply to the discussion: The immediate, radical changes that America needs in order to survive. Lots of them. [View all]Scootaloo
(25,699 posts)34. I'll be candid with you
This is existential stuff we're looking at. it's not a case of "well, I disagree with policy, take up arms!" it's "this shit will end my existence if something is not done about it."
Violence should never be anyone's first course of action. But the truth is, it should never be summarily dismissed as an option, either. Even famous nonviolent methods like those of Gandhi and king, had a simmering stew of anger and the threat of violence behind them.
if the option comes down to violating some religious belief in a John Lennonist utopia, or allowing my children and yours to enter the world as slaves in a fucking wasteland, then I'll tell you what, John Lennon can go fuck himself.
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The immediate, radical changes that America needs in order to survive. Lots of them. [View all]
Zalatix
Aug 2012
OP
Your solutions are sound. American minds are not. Greed and fear reign and ignorance is
nanabugg
Aug 2012
#70
I think we eventually will have to leave this rock if we want to survive as a species
loli phabay
Aug 2012
#29
Cal Tech, National Geographic and every other site on the subject disagrees with you.
former9thward
Aug 2012
#55
you realize there is a distinction between temperate and tropical rainforests?
datasuspect
Aug 2012
#56
The redwood forests of the Pacific Northwest are referred to as temperate rainforests...
antigone382
Aug 2012
#76
We could start by sending this post to every person we know, and every paper we read.
northoftheborder
Aug 2012
#4
Grow food to feed people instead of feeding animals. Forget biofuel, that's not the problem.
Care Acutely
Aug 2012
#7
protein requirement depends on body weight and muscle mass, also activity level (athletic/high
HiPointDem
Aug 2012
#22
my gf is vegan. Seems to be a pretty healthy choice. It might be harder for
limpyhobbler
Aug 2012
#18
guess america isn't going to survive, then. personally, i don't think it will & i think that's the
HiPointDem
Aug 2012
#24
What if we took everything they said ,did or didn't do, as a clue????
orpupilofnature57
Aug 2012
#43
If you hoard cats people think you're nuts, but our society absolutely glorifies hoarding money
Zalatix
Aug 2012
#40
How do we mobilize people who really are concerned? That's the question I have left.
Zalatix
Aug 2012
#57
Our neighbors in Latin America have given us a Blue Print for this kind of "change".
bvar22
Aug 2012
#59
Agreed on all points except: drones, eminent domain, and bank nationalization.
CabCurious
Aug 2012
#71
Yup, incremental changes mean jack shit when you're buried alive, 6 feet under.
Zalatix
Aug 2012
#80