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Apollyonus

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7. Chalk it to inexperience

Wed Jan 23, 2019, 04:11 PM

Jan 2019

Last edited Wed Jan 23, 2019, 05:53 PM - Edit history (1)

No bill is ever going to be perfect. She would be voting no on every bill because no bill is going to be "pure."

She will learn and become a great congresswoman if she does.

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BREAKING: On today's House vote to re-open the Government, one Democrat voted "no"... [View all] brooklynite Jan 2019 OP

Good for AOC. triron Jan 2019 #1

Not really. Cha Jan 2019 #54

Well, it is more important to me to point out ALL the GOP who voted "no" Their constituents who allgood33 Jan 2019 #63

what the...? D_Master81 Jan 2019 #2

The bill contained funding for ICE, which she opposed. LonePirate Jan 2019 #3

That's a bad reason to vote no. marylandblue Jan 2019 #4

That is a fair bet DFW Jan 2019 #9

I think you're right NewJeffCT Jan 2019 #14

Then why did she vote for basically the same language a week ago? onenote Jan 2019 #18

Almost every bill ever voted on in the history of America would have at least one thing Eliot Rosewater Jan 2019 #30

Not according to this screen - "Except funding for DHS", under which is ICE. George II Jan 2019 #48

From Roll Call: George II Jan 2019 #74

With a name like that, you must be familiar with the royal "we"...lol tritsofme Jan 2019 #108

She may be a very ineffective Representative SCantiGOP Jan 2019 #154

And it really doesn't matter how YOU feel about how she voted Ferrets are Cool Jan 2019 #5

Her vote does affect everyone though nini Jan 2019 #10

a difference that makes no difference is no difference shanny Jan 2019 #53

Exactly (and true for all in Congress). Besides DU is here spooky3 Jan 2019 #101

Well, yes, it does, actually. DFW Jan 2019 #13

What a bizarre thing to say. onenote Jan 2019 #19

Wait until primary season is in full tilt if you want to see bizzarre. nt Blue_true Jan 2019 #60

Not even VAGUELY how it works. Codeine Jan 2019 #27

Wrong. This has to do with the whole country. Cha Jan 2019 #39

Yea, it dors matter. Adrahil Jan 2019 #51

It's funny how it fluctuates between... doompatrol39 Jan 2019 #58

What "fluctuates"? George II Jan 2019 #71

People's reasons for disliking her or complaining about here doompatrol39 Jan 2019 #92

So you're okay with a Democrat voting against her party in an important vote? George II Jan 2019 #100

Again..... doompatrol39 Jan 2019 #105

I've never heard anyone say "it was symbolic" about anyone but one other member... George II Jan 2019 #109

Really? melman Jan 2019 #113

Please point me to one. Thanks. George II Jan 2019 #116

Nope melman Jan 2019 #118

Neither am I. I reiterate my original statement on this. George II Jan 2019 #120

Okay melman Jan 2019 #122

If anyone is truly interested... doompatrol39 Jan 2019 #127

Yeah melman Jan 2019 #132

Hahaaaaaa.. Cha Jan 2019 #155

What? melman Jan 2019 #159

lol Cha Jan 2019 #160

Okay melman Jan 2019 #162

Manchin's yes vote on Kavanaugh doompatrol39 Jan 2019 #125

Did he say either was "symbolic"? George II Jan 2019 #134

No, many posters on here did. doompatrol39 Jan 2019 #138

Kavanaugh doompatrol39 Jan 2019 #115

Not that long ago at all melman Jan 2019 #123

Hell of a huge difference between the discussion on Munchin and AOC. Autumn Jan 2019 #130

No kidding. Lots of doublethink and duckspeak today. n/t Decoy of Fenris Jan 2019 #135

It's hilarious and yet so sad. Autumn Jan 2019 #141

"Sad" is too tame. Pathetic, really. I pity them. n/t Decoy of Fenris Jan 2019 #142

Pathetic is a better word but I have no pity. nt Autumn Jan 2019 #150

To each their own. Good to see you again. I'm out, though. n/t Decoy of Fenris Jan 2019 #151

Take care, It was good to see you too. nt Autumn Jan 2019 #152

Why all this "whataboutism"? So if Manchin voted against the Democrats that means.... George II Jan 2019 #161

You mean like if AOC voted against the Democrats on a bill that was going to pass Autumn Jan 2019 #163

low bar Cha Jan 2019 #164

Yes melman Jan 2019 #136

It only matters when... Autumn Jan 2019 #139

What evidence do you have that her constituents share her views pnwmom Jan 2019 #69

So your representing here that she has no aspirations beyond her district. Cary Jan 2019 #76

Her constituents elected her to enact policy Takket Jan 2019 #78

We no longer know why she voted "No" three times yesterday, her only explanation.... George II Jan 2019 #114

So that Instagram "poll" she took asking if she should focus on constituent services or national iss Empowerer Jan 2019 #121

So all the people who complain about random Rs Loki Liesmith Jan 2019 #89

I guess no one should discuss the members of Congress unless they are from their respective states still_one Jan 2019 #137

Get over it pecosbob Jan 2019 #6

Amazingly INAPPROPRIATE analogy Eliot Rosewater Jan 2019 #29

+1 2naSalit Jan 2019 #56

+1 violetpastille Jan 2019 #85

I stand with AOC!! InAbLuEsTaTe Jan 2019 #46

So do I... regnaD kciN Jan 2019 #79

Precisely... once again, AOC is mentoring her colleagues on how to bring progressive issues InAbLuEsTaTe Jan 2019 #83

So why did she vote FOR the same bill a week ago? onenote Jan 2019 #145

+1 sheshe2 Jan 2019 #153

Oh, really. How are the two votes equivalent? n/t pnwmom Jan 2019 #67

Let's not turn this into an argument when none is necessary pecosbob Jan 2019 #70

Chalk it to inexperience Apollyonus Jan 2019 #7

If Eliot Rosewater Jan 2019 #31

When she sees members voting no on proposals she supports because of one thing in a larger bill onenote Jan 2019 #8

I suspect she knows that already. DFW Jan 2019 #11

Not sure being an effective member of Congress is her goal GulfCoast66 Jan 2019 #65

Bad move, youthful ignorance beachbum bob Jan 2019 #12

Good move, youthful courage. pwb Jan 2019 #17

So was it a bad move when she voted for basically the same bill a week ago? onenote Jan 2019 #21

However she votes I am fine with it. pwb Jan 2019 #23

That's a discerning attitude onenote Jan 2019 #34

God help us if there are very many new D seat holders who think they can ONLY vote on perfect bills Eliot Rosewater Jan 2019 #41

Really? No matter what? Eliot Rosewater Jan 2019 #35

Make that 1000%!!! InAbLuEsTaTe Jan 2019 #47

My support is coupled with "zero fucks" about the vote. David__77 Jan 2019 #50

That sounds really familiar Empowerer Jan 2019 #73

That's an "orange" way of thinking... tritsofme Jan 2019 #110

+1 shanny Jan 2019 #55

Wonderful! David__77 Jan 2019 #15

What is wonderful about it? Exactly? did she or you think perfect bills exist? Eliot Rosewater Jan 2019 #36

She met her constituents needs without jeopardizing the outcome. Kick the jukebox already. TheBlackAdder Jan 2019 #87

OK, so what you are saying is IF the vote was close she would NOT vote this way, and you know this Eliot Rosewater Jan 2019 #124

I get the idea of meeting her constituents needs (although many here don't apply that same test onenote Jan 2019 #144

With all due respect, how do we know this? sheshe2 Jan 2019 #165

She voted with 193 Republicans? NT WeekiWater Jan 2019 #16

And her organization is targeting Harry Cuellar? George II Jan 2019 #24

JD...some of us said what was what but we get shouted down. I got tired of sounding the warning Eliot Rosewater Jan 2019 #37

Congressman Cuellar did vote to open the government Gothmog Jan 2019 #40

This nt Watchfoxheadexplodes Jan 2019 #88

This blow by blow commentary on a junior MyNameGoesHere Jan 2019 #20

This is a pretty significant vote, though, and she is the lone dissenter. I usually Squinch Jan 2019 #32

Tiresome? How so? From what I can tell (and based on the boasting of her supporters)... NurseJackie Jan 2019 #33

The country is reeling with the government shutdown. In fact she just used the shutdown.... George II Jan 2019 #43

"essentially voting "with" them is not good." --- My feelings exactly. NurseJackie Jan 2019 #93

Two of their founders, Saikat Chakrabarti and Corbin Trent, are her two top aides... George II Jan 2019 #97

I didn't know that her TWO top aides were founders of Cenk Uygur's "Justice Democrats". That is... NurseJackie Jan 2019 #99

This is here first significant vote that we are all anticipating 2naSalit Jan 2019 #57

Well I have heard she is the Future treestar Jan 2019 #81

Ironically, when it comes time to determine the most liberal reps, this vote will hurt her. aikoaiko Jan 2019 #22

Exactly. During the 2018 primaries we saw a lot of criticism of incumbents who did not... George II Jan 2019 #25

For this session, Progressive Punch now rates her at #214 (tied) in the House at 96.43 George II Jan 2019 #49

As well it should. OilemFirchen Jan 2019 #61

For whatever reason, even if it's not valid. George II Jan 2019 #68

WTF? That's not good. Squinch Jan 2019 #26

Oh good lord! NurseJackie Jan 2019 #28

The BEST we can conclude is she mistakenly believes she will only vote on perfect bills. Eliot Rosewater Jan 2019 #38

10 Republicans voted for this bill Gothmog Jan 2019 #42

That "1" looks terrible on that screen of the tally..... George II Jan 2019 #45

Oh wow.. ICE isn't even "Closed"?! Cha Jan 2019 #52

I don't know if they're closed or not, but one of the bills voted on yesterday.... George II Jan 2019 #166

So her no vote to not fund ICE was a mistake? brush Jan 2019 #59

I'd like to know why she voted Cha Jan 2019 #62

Me to. I hope we're not looking at just a contrarian here... brush Jan 2019 #64

It looks Cha Jan 2019 #158

I thought she wanted to be more than Bernie Jr. PubliusEnigma Jan 2019 #44

DU does not represent Democrats as a whole. GulfCoast66 Jan 2019 #66

The reason given for the "No" vote isn't correct. We've heard that the "No" vote was because... George II Jan 2019 #72

"Some pretty important funding in that bill, but no DHS or ICE." -- Wow! NurseJackie Jan 2019 #96

I respect her decision. Joe941 Jan 2019 #75

You respect her decision to vote to keep the government closed? George II Jan 2019 #98

She is her own person and I respect that she can make her own choices. Joe941 Jan 2019 #117

With that in mind, how do you feel about Justice Democrats targeting Harry Cuellar next year? George II Jan 2019 #119

I dont know what it will take to get people to open their eyes to what is going on. Eliot Rosewater Jan 2019 #129

And this is why the Republicans love her. R B Garr Jan 2019 #147

Watching Jake Tapper on CNN right now, and something I've been afraid of is happening.... George II Jan 2019 #156

Isn't there a weird strategic move... forgotmylogin Jan 2019 #77

By general rules of order I believe one must vote in favor to later move to reconsider WheelWalker Jan 2019 #82

You're right, it's the other way around. forgotmylogin Jan 2019 #86

She voted for the same bill a week ago. onenote Jan 2019 #143

I'm starting to think the attention treestar Jan 2019 #80

This message was self-deleted by its author LongtimeAZDem Jan 2019 #84

OMG! Let's primary her and elect more Retrumplicans! maxrandb Jan 2019 #90

Her district is not at all likely to elect a Republican. NurseJackie Jan 2019 #94

Bullshit maxrandb Jan 2019 #103

Nobody is attacking anyone. NurseJackie Jan 2019 #104

If you're not doodling her name over and over with hearts around it in your notebook EffieBlack Jan 2019 #106

Oh, well that's DIFFERENT! NurseJackie Jan 2019 #107

Correct, DIRECTLY due to people DEMANDING purity. And yet this vote is EXACTLY that. Eliot Rosewater Jan 2019 #131

Or elect someone who reliably votes Democratic....oh wait.... OnDoutside Jan 2019 #102

Let's not get hyperbolic. Cha Jan 2019 #157

Nevertheless, she persisted IronLionZion Jan 2019 #91

The comparison with Senator Warren doesn't really work in this case. NurseJackie Jan 2019 #95

In voting with Republicans...what a proud moment... tritsofme Jan 2019 #111

There was another vote today in the House regarding funding the government. It passed with.... George II Jan 2019 #112

My thoughts - OhZone Jan 2019 #126

Oh boy - - How the Faction LOVES this story hueymahl Jan 2019 #128

What are the REAL facts? Eliot Rosewater Jan 2019 #133

Oh Facts matter.. a lot. Cha Jan 2019 #146

I agree - Don't understand why she voted against the bill that did not fund ICE hueymahl Jan 2019 #148

Not delighted. the opposite. Why vote with Cha Jan 2019 #149

Who cares...we have more to talk about than this one rep titaniumsalute Jan 2019 #140