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GulfCoast66

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66. DU does not represent Democrats as a whole.

Wed Jan 23, 2019, 09:56 PM

Jan 2019

And while I am no self decribed progressive I love the fact there are democrats here I disagree with on issues. Makes our party stronger. We are all on the left but tend to fight about minutiae. I support Universal Healthcare but not Medicare for all. Does not make me a republican. And I respect those who want Medicare for all, just think they are wrong.

But I need to remind everyone about all the post here months ago when we thought we had a leadership battle about Speaker Pelosi.

Too establishment, too old, too tied to the old way...

Not seeing many of them now, are we?

If you want to be a player in Congress your have to prove you Mettle. That takes time.

We have a hell of a bench of Congress members who have proven their mettle. Have done the boring work not on the networks cameras.

The future leadership of the house is in good hands.

I don’t see how AOC fits that mold. But if here district like this more power to her.

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BREAKING: On today's House vote to re-open the Government, one Democrat voted "no"... [View all] brooklynite Jan 2019 OP

Good for AOC. triron Jan 2019 #1

Not really. Cha Jan 2019 #54

Well, it is more important to me to point out ALL the GOP who voted "no" Their constituents who allgood33 Jan 2019 #63

what the...? D_Master81 Jan 2019 #2

The bill contained funding for ICE, which she opposed. LonePirate Jan 2019 #3

That's a bad reason to vote no. marylandblue Jan 2019 #4

That is a fair bet DFW Jan 2019 #9

I think you're right NewJeffCT Jan 2019 #14

Then why did she vote for basically the same language a week ago? onenote Jan 2019 #18

Almost every bill ever voted on in the history of America would have at least one thing Eliot Rosewater Jan 2019 #30

Not according to this screen - "Except funding for DHS", under which is ICE. George II Jan 2019 #48

From Roll Call: George II Jan 2019 #74

With a name like that, you must be familiar with the royal "we"...lol tritsofme Jan 2019 #108

She may be a very ineffective Representative SCantiGOP Jan 2019 #154

And it really doesn't matter how YOU feel about how she voted Ferrets are Cool Jan 2019 #5

Her vote does affect everyone though nini Jan 2019 #10

a difference that makes no difference is no difference shanny Jan 2019 #53

Exactly (and true for all in Congress). Besides DU is here spooky3 Jan 2019 #101

Well, yes, it does, actually. DFW Jan 2019 #13

What a bizarre thing to say. onenote Jan 2019 #19

Wait until primary season is in full tilt if you want to see bizzarre. nt Blue_true Jan 2019 #60

Not even VAGUELY how it works. Codeine Jan 2019 #27

Wrong. This has to do with the whole country. Cha Jan 2019 #39

Yea, it dors matter. Adrahil Jan 2019 #51

It's funny how it fluctuates between... doompatrol39 Jan 2019 #58

What "fluctuates"? George II Jan 2019 #71

People's reasons for disliking her or complaining about here doompatrol39 Jan 2019 #92

So you're okay with a Democrat voting against her party in an important vote? George II Jan 2019 #100

Again..... doompatrol39 Jan 2019 #105

I've never heard anyone say "it was symbolic" about anyone but one other member... George II Jan 2019 #109

Really? melman Jan 2019 #113

Please point me to one. Thanks. George II Jan 2019 #116

Nope melman Jan 2019 #118

Neither am I. I reiterate my original statement on this. George II Jan 2019 #120

Okay melman Jan 2019 #122

If anyone is truly interested... doompatrol39 Jan 2019 #127

Yeah melman Jan 2019 #132

Hahaaaaaa.. Cha Jan 2019 #155

What? melman Jan 2019 #159

lol Cha Jan 2019 #160

Okay melman Jan 2019 #162

Manchin's yes vote on Kavanaugh doompatrol39 Jan 2019 #125

Did he say either was "symbolic"? George II Jan 2019 #134

No, many posters on here did. doompatrol39 Jan 2019 #138

Kavanaugh doompatrol39 Jan 2019 #115

Not that long ago at all melman Jan 2019 #123

Hell of a huge difference between the discussion on Munchin and AOC. Autumn Jan 2019 #130

No kidding. Lots of doublethink and duckspeak today. n/t Decoy of Fenris Jan 2019 #135

It's hilarious and yet so sad. Autumn Jan 2019 #141

"Sad" is too tame. Pathetic, really. I pity them. n/t Decoy of Fenris Jan 2019 #142

Pathetic is a better word but I have no pity. nt Autumn Jan 2019 #150

To each their own. Good to see you again. I'm out, though. n/t Decoy of Fenris Jan 2019 #151

Take care, It was good to see you too. nt Autumn Jan 2019 #152

Why all this "whataboutism"? So if Manchin voted against the Democrats that means.... George II Jan 2019 #161

You mean like if AOC voted against the Democrats on a bill that was going to pass Autumn Jan 2019 #163

low bar Cha Jan 2019 #164

Yes melman Jan 2019 #136

It only matters when... Autumn Jan 2019 #139

What evidence do you have that her constituents share her views pnwmom Jan 2019 #69

So your representing here that she has no aspirations beyond her district. Cary Jan 2019 #76

Her constituents elected her to enact policy Takket Jan 2019 #78

We no longer know why she voted "No" three times yesterday, her only explanation.... George II Jan 2019 #114

So that Instagram "poll" she took asking if she should focus on constituent services or national iss Empowerer Jan 2019 #121

So all the people who complain about random Rs Loki Liesmith Jan 2019 #89

I guess no one should discuss the members of Congress unless they are from their respective states still_one Jan 2019 #137

Get over it pecosbob Jan 2019 #6

Amazingly INAPPROPRIATE analogy Eliot Rosewater Jan 2019 #29

+1 2naSalit Jan 2019 #56

+1 violetpastille Jan 2019 #85

I stand with AOC!! InAbLuEsTaTe Jan 2019 #46

So do I... regnaD kciN Jan 2019 #79

Precisely... once again, AOC is mentoring her colleagues on how to bring progressive issues InAbLuEsTaTe Jan 2019 #83

So why did she vote FOR the same bill a week ago? onenote Jan 2019 #145

+1 sheshe2 Jan 2019 #153

Oh, really. How are the two votes equivalent? n/t pnwmom Jan 2019 #67

Let's not turn this into an argument when none is necessary pecosbob Jan 2019 #70

Chalk it to inexperience Apollyonus Jan 2019 #7

If Eliot Rosewater Jan 2019 #31

When she sees members voting no on proposals she supports because of one thing in a larger bill onenote Jan 2019 #8

I suspect she knows that already. DFW Jan 2019 #11

Not sure being an effective member of Congress is her goal GulfCoast66 Jan 2019 #65

Bad move, youthful ignorance beachbum bob Jan 2019 #12

Good move, youthful courage. pwb Jan 2019 #17

So was it a bad move when she voted for basically the same bill a week ago? onenote Jan 2019 #21

However she votes I am fine with it. pwb Jan 2019 #23

That's a discerning attitude onenote Jan 2019 #34

God help us if there are very many new D seat holders who think they can ONLY vote on perfect bills Eliot Rosewater Jan 2019 #41

Really? No matter what? Eliot Rosewater Jan 2019 #35

Make that 1000%!!! InAbLuEsTaTe Jan 2019 #47

My support is coupled with "zero fucks" about the vote. David__77 Jan 2019 #50

That sounds really familiar Empowerer Jan 2019 #73

That's an "orange" way of thinking... tritsofme Jan 2019 #110

+1 shanny Jan 2019 #55

Wonderful! David__77 Jan 2019 #15

What is wonderful about it? Exactly? did she or you think perfect bills exist? Eliot Rosewater Jan 2019 #36

She met her constituents needs without jeopardizing the outcome. Kick the jukebox already. TheBlackAdder Jan 2019 #87

OK, so what you are saying is IF the vote was close she would NOT vote this way, and you know this Eliot Rosewater Jan 2019 #124

I get the idea of meeting her constituents needs (although many here don't apply that same test onenote Jan 2019 #144

With all due respect, how do we know this? sheshe2 Jan 2019 #165

She voted with 193 Republicans? NT WeekiWater Jan 2019 #16

And her organization is targeting Harry Cuellar? George II Jan 2019 #24

JD...some of us said what was what but we get shouted down. I got tired of sounding the warning Eliot Rosewater Jan 2019 #37

Congressman Cuellar did vote to open the government Gothmog Jan 2019 #40

This nt Watchfoxheadexplodes Jan 2019 #88

This blow by blow commentary on a junior MyNameGoesHere Jan 2019 #20

This is a pretty significant vote, though, and she is the lone dissenter. I usually Squinch Jan 2019 #32

Tiresome? How so? From what I can tell (and based on the boasting of her supporters)... NurseJackie Jan 2019 #33

The country is reeling with the government shutdown. In fact she just used the shutdown.... George II Jan 2019 #43

"essentially voting "with" them is not good." --- My feelings exactly. NurseJackie Jan 2019 #93

Two of their founders, Saikat Chakrabarti and Corbin Trent, are her two top aides... George II Jan 2019 #97

I didn't know that her TWO top aides were founders of Cenk Uygur's "Justice Democrats". That is... NurseJackie Jan 2019 #99

This is here first significant vote that we are all anticipating 2naSalit Jan 2019 #57

Well I have heard she is the Future treestar Jan 2019 #81

Ironically, when it comes time to determine the most liberal reps, this vote will hurt her. aikoaiko Jan 2019 #22

Exactly. During the 2018 primaries we saw a lot of criticism of incumbents who did not... George II Jan 2019 #25

For this session, Progressive Punch now rates her at #214 (tied) in the House at 96.43 George II Jan 2019 #49

As well it should. OilemFirchen Jan 2019 #61

For whatever reason, even if it's not valid. George II Jan 2019 #68

WTF? That's not good. Squinch Jan 2019 #26

Oh good lord! NurseJackie Jan 2019 #28

The BEST we can conclude is she mistakenly believes she will only vote on perfect bills. Eliot Rosewater Jan 2019 #38

10 Republicans voted for this bill Gothmog Jan 2019 #42

That "1" looks terrible on that screen of the tally..... George II Jan 2019 #45

Oh wow.. ICE isn't even "Closed"?! Cha Jan 2019 #52

I don't know if they're closed or not, but one of the bills voted on yesterday.... George II Jan 2019 #166

So her no vote to not fund ICE was a mistake? brush Jan 2019 #59

I'd like to know why she voted Cha Jan 2019 #62

Me to. I hope we're not looking at just a contrarian here... brush Jan 2019 #64

It looks Cha Jan 2019 #158

I thought she wanted to be more than Bernie Jr. PubliusEnigma Jan 2019 #44

DU does not represent Democrats as a whole. GulfCoast66 Jan 2019 #66

The reason given for the "No" vote isn't correct. We've heard that the "No" vote was because... George II Jan 2019 #72

"Some pretty important funding in that bill, but no DHS or ICE." -- Wow! NurseJackie Jan 2019 #96

I respect her decision. Joe941 Jan 2019 #75

You respect her decision to vote to keep the government closed? George II Jan 2019 #98

She is her own person and I respect that she can make her own choices. Joe941 Jan 2019 #117

With that in mind, how do you feel about Justice Democrats targeting Harry Cuellar next year? George II Jan 2019 #119

I dont know what it will take to get people to open their eyes to what is going on. Eliot Rosewater Jan 2019 #129

And this is why the Republicans love her. R B Garr Jan 2019 #147

Watching Jake Tapper on CNN right now, and something I've been afraid of is happening.... George II Jan 2019 #156

Isn't there a weird strategic move... forgotmylogin Jan 2019 #77

By general rules of order I believe one must vote in favor to later move to reconsider WheelWalker Jan 2019 #82

You're right, it's the other way around. forgotmylogin Jan 2019 #86

She voted for the same bill a week ago. onenote Jan 2019 #143

I'm starting to think the attention treestar Jan 2019 #80

This message was self-deleted by its author LongtimeAZDem Jan 2019 #84

OMG! Let's primary her and elect more Retrumplicans! maxrandb Jan 2019 #90

Her district is not at all likely to elect a Republican. NurseJackie Jan 2019 #94

Bullshit maxrandb Jan 2019 #103

Nobody is attacking anyone. NurseJackie Jan 2019 #104

If you're not doodling her name over and over with hearts around it in your notebook EffieBlack Jan 2019 #106

Oh, well that's DIFFERENT! NurseJackie Jan 2019 #107

Correct, DIRECTLY due to people DEMANDING purity. And yet this vote is EXACTLY that. Eliot Rosewater Jan 2019 #131

Or elect someone who reliably votes Democratic....oh wait.... OnDoutside Jan 2019 #102

Let's not get hyperbolic. Cha Jan 2019 #157

Nevertheless, she persisted IronLionZion Jan 2019 #91

The comparison with Senator Warren doesn't really work in this case. NurseJackie Jan 2019 #95

In voting with Republicans...what a proud moment... tritsofme Jan 2019 #111

There was another vote today in the House regarding funding the government. It passed with.... George II Jan 2019 #112

My thoughts - OhZone Jan 2019 #126

Oh boy - - How the Faction LOVES this story hueymahl Jan 2019 #128

What are the REAL facts? Eliot Rosewater Jan 2019 #133

Oh Facts matter.. a lot. Cha Jan 2019 #146

I agree - Don't understand why she voted against the bill that did not fund ICE hueymahl Jan 2019 #148

Not delighted. the opposite. Why vote with Cha Jan 2019 #149

Who cares...we have more to talk about than this one rep titaniumsalute Jan 2019 #140