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dameatball

(7,400 posts)
22. Two comments on this subject:
Sat Jan 26, 2019, 08:11 PM
Jan 2019

1. Virtually every major or mid sized city in the country has certain gathering places (parking lots, parks, etc) where people will congregate and wait for cars/trucks/vans to pull up and offer day labor, usually cash. No background checks are done. Usually these are small time contractors or sub-contractors that need to supplement their work force on a temporary basis. No way are they going to hire someone permanently to do that verification process because it is largely temporary needs. In the city I am familiar with, Churches Fried Chicken was a popular gathering spot. Might not be true today. In a nearby, smaller city it was at a parking area outside of a farmers' market.

2. I ran a labor intensive business for a couple of years that sometimes had applicants that might be questionable. I complied with federal guidelines and submitted whatever was needed prior to hiring. It was not that big a deal. The only person I ever had to let go was a white guy. Him and his wife had fled some charges in New England. His initial clearance was okay, then I got a letter a few weeks later stating the opposite. He did a great job but I couldn't keep him. The weird thing is about a day after I gave him the news both he and his wife moved out of the area with no forwarding address.

To put this in perspective this was the late 1980's, so I am not pretending to know the current guidelines. But even back then, I could have been liable if I did not submit the necessary paperwork. I guess my main point is that there is absolutely no reason for these employers to NOT know the rules. They have been in place, with some modifications, for at least 30 years. I think the main difference is that prior to 9/11 no one cared. It was all about the bottom line.

I've said this for a long time. Once, I said this to a Trump supporter, and he was phylny Jan 2019 #1
I, too, have been reciting this mantra for about 8 years. Ferrets are Cool Jan 2019 #15
The top guy, too. Not some h/r peon, but the big guy. Owners Luz Jan 2019 #48
Yup Ferrets are Cool Jan 2019 #57
I also have been saying it for a long time. It is the easiest solution. scarytomcat Jan 2019 #62
Typical deplorable hypocrite. nt Ferrets are Cool Jan 2019 #66
"You'd rather jail an American citizen than an illegal?" I've heard that too... paleotn Jan 2019 #35
Exactly! Ligyron Jan 2019 #40
And .. cannabis_flower Jan 2019 #68
Well, that certainly would be SoCalNative Jan 2019 #2
Yup, starting with Trump properties! SunSeeker Jan 2019 #3
Trump must have gotten the memo leftieNanner Jan 2019 #6
Instead Of The MSM Making A Big Deal Out Of Trump Hiring..... global1 Jan 2019 #11
Exactly Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin Jan 2019 #12
I mentioned that solution to my immigrant-hating uncle ZZenith Jan 2019 #4
Right, and that would capture trump!!! elleng Jan 2019 #5
thank you . my late mum said that too. AllaN01Bear Jan 2019 #7
+1 old guy Jan 2019 #8
Living as close as I do to the border, I have seen this a lot. panader0 Jan 2019 #9
One would think with all that cheap labor TexasBushwhacker Jan 2019 #10
A relative of mine (now retired) worked for the CBP Xipe Totec Jan 2019 #39
"Nobody got cheated on their wages" KentuckyWoman Jan 2019 #47
I think we need to do what Republicans did in drug busts, seize the property of the criminals rustydog Jan 2019 #13
Agreed. If there were no jobs, there would be no illegal immigrants, for the most part Buckeyeblue Jan 2019 #14
Make it easier to get a work visa as you say. AllyCat Jan 2019 #25
The whole 'illegal immigrant' thing is a racket. Stonepounder Jan 2019 #37
Trump is firing undoc workers at Mar-a-Lago rather than the managers who hired them. Bernardo de La Paz Jan 2019 #16
Incarceration Nation greblach Jan 2019 #17
I have been screaming this for years Hamlette Jan 2019 #18
Trump would be in prison! Ilsa Jan 2019 #19
They have to realize and accept that we actually need these people. This refugee woman said she UniteFightBack Jan 2019 #20
It's already illegal and they do fine the employers and ban them from contracts IronLionZion Jan 2019 #21
Two comments on this subject: dameatball Jan 2019 #22
I haven't see those since the 80s LeftInTX Jan 2019 #67
Little to no consequence? They might get fined $250. tclambert Jan 2019 #23
Employers need to be held accountable, but we need a new immigration policy. Lonestarblue Jan 2019 #24
You hit the nail right on the head. KY_EnviroGuy Jan 2019 #38
The RWingers complain that immigrants are tanking their jobs. Delmette2.0 Jan 2019 #26
For sure... I don't think I've seen a non-Hispanic roofer in Central Florida in the last 10 years... PeeJ52 Jan 2019 #27
Ditto here in South Florida. Ligyron Jan 2019 #43
Does anyone really think that the GOP wants to stop it? eom guillaumeb Jan 2019 #28
Investing and creating economic opportunities in Central America will also help do this. LonePirate Jan 2019 #29
I don't understand Timewas Jan 2019 #30
Give them an extra five years if they were hired by their contactors OR subcontractors rocktivity Jan 2019 #31
Illegal employers are the biggest problem for sure. nt elmac Jan 2019 #32
I often like to say "It's the employer, stupid." muntrv Jan 2019 #33
Have you ever run a small business? Blue_true Jan 2019 #34
It doesn't have to be difficult Farmer-Rick Jan 2019 #56
Systems like E-Verify will be part of the solution. Blue_true Jan 2019 #70
I don't know about that sentence, Lunabell Jan 2019 #36
work visa booths Hermit-The-Prog Jan 2019 #41
Don't know how it works other places but here is what a farmer I know does... GulfCoast66 Jan 2019 #42
People are making a lot of money off these workers and voting for Trump at same time. delisen Jan 2019 #44
The only way to stop illegal immigration... Wounded Bear Jan 2019 #45
Message auto-removed Name removed Jan 2019 #46
I have a better idea FreeJoe Jan 2019 #49
K&R ck4829 Jan 2019 #50
That would shrink the economy treestar Jan 2019 #51
Employer sanctions have been on the books since 1986 treestar Jan 2019 #52
There is widespread use of false documents from what I understand MichMan Jan 2019 #59
There are also illegals voting treestar Jan 2019 #61
I 100% agree!!! nt USALiberal Jan 2019 #53
jail would be too easy rampartc Jan 2019 #54
Should the same apply if you hire an undocumented person to mow your lawn? MichMan Jan 2019 #55
absolutely rampartc Jan 2019 #60
I have had a lot of work done on my home and yard SHRED Jan 2019 #63
My elderly mother lives in Florida MichMan Jan 2019 #64
what happened to those illegals that worked for trump golf courses...???? spanone Jan 2019 #58
They're people. Not illegals. Iggo Jan 2019 #71
They could pay enough in fines to fund border security too. dogman Jan 2019 #65
There sure are consequences for employers to hire illegals... Hulk Jan 2019 #69
They're people, not illegals. Iggo Jan 2019 #74
We all keep saying this, yet Congress does little. Regardless of which party is in control. oldsoftie Jan 2019 #72
It's far worse than simply illegal hiring. citizen blues Jan 2019 #73
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