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appal_jack

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8. This quote unfortunately displays profound ignorance.
Sun Feb 3, 2019, 04:07 PM
Feb 2019

Last edited Tue Feb 5, 2019, 09:24 PM - Edit history (2)

All respect due to Emma for her strength as a survivor.

And of course, complete agreement that the manufactured "emergency" of immigration at the southern border does not warrant a stupid wall, plus the further erosion of civil liberties along the whole perimeter of the USA that will surely accompany it (Constitutional rights are already grossly and illegally violated along this 100-mile-wide ribbon, thousands of miles long, where the majority of the US population happens to reside in the name of "border security" ).

But the whole point of Constitutional Rights (the Right to Keep and Bear Arms very much included) is that we don't muck with them as a knee jerk response to a problem.

Do we need to address gun violence, and violent crime overall for that matter?

Yes.

Do we need to further limit the Second Amendment rights of peaceable citizens, when 20,000+ gun laws already on the books have proven insufficient?

No!

The concrete steps to reduce violent crime are in the arenas of economic opportunity, progressive taxation, a social safety net, accessible healthcare both mental and physical, educational opportunity, classroom size, teacher pay, smart policing, criminal justice reform, and environmental protection. Further gun control is not even in the top ten most important responses to school shootings.

-app

Watch her rise.... [View all] Heartstrings Feb 2019 OP
Hey Heartstrings! Great meme! ProudLib72 Feb 2019 #1
Thanks! Heartstrings Feb 2019 #3
Very good! treestar Feb 2019 #2
But..................self defense. guillaumeb Feb 2019 #4
Well said, Heartstrings! Ohiogal Feb 2019 #5
Telling it like it is! oasis Feb 2019 #6
She still thinks that facts matter maxsolomon Feb 2019 #7
This quote unfortunately displays profound ignorance. appal_jack Feb 2019 #8
20,000 gun laws? Really? Could you list them for me? PeeJ52 Feb 2019 #9
There are so many laws to punish employers who hire "illegals" that there is NO NEED for a wall,just BamaRefugee Feb 2019 #11
Works for me. nt appal_jack Feb 2019 #12
The fine is as low as $250. tclambert Feb 2019 #27
So the Dems RAISE THE RATES! And lock them in. Millionaires doing the perp walk every night on TV BamaRefugee Feb 2019 #29
That's why I keep bringing up the ridiculously low fines, tclambert Feb 2019 #30
But no one REALLY wants to fix the illegal immigration "problem" TexasBushwhacker Feb 2019 #34
Exactly. And Roe v Wade is a never ending cash cow for the Rethugs, why would they end it? BamaRefugee Feb 2019 #37
Check your facts before accusing others of profound ignorance. whopis01 Feb 2019 #13
OK, I am open to correction on the exact number of gun laws. appal_jack Feb 2019 #18
42 states have preemption laws preventing local gun laws whopis01 Feb 2019 #33
The facts remain. appal_jack Feb 2019 #35
And none of those mean a damn thing when you can buy whatever gun at a gunshow or Persondem Feb 2019 #38
Ok. Here you go whopis01 Feb 2019 #39
See post #45 below for answers. nt appal_jack Feb 2019 #46
Damn good post! +1 Devil Child Feb 2019 #17
I think the second amendment justgamma Feb 2019 #19
Get back to me by quill pen, and we can talk. appal_jack Feb 2019 #20
"Gun control" and the second amendment aren't mutually exclusive. n/t SpankMe Feb 2019 #26
As written, the 2nd Amendment IS gun control. dchill Feb 2019 #36
You oppose universal background checks, registration, and licensing ... Martin Eden Feb 2019 #28
Odd... you're seeing things in the OP that don't exist, and arguing against them. LanternWaste Feb 2019 #44
Or, I could be reading & paying attention... appal_jack Feb 2019 #45
Well said, Emma lunamagica Feb 2019 #10
This is interesting. LakeArenal Feb 2019 #14
I like this. Great on-point messaging that's easy to understand. NurseJackie Feb 2019 #15
I so hope this Sucha NastyWoman Feb 2019 #16
Natural Leader. zentrum Feb 2019 #21
Great post. And how many of the killers in those 325+ mass shootings were not US citizens? erronis Feb 2019 #22
Up against the world pecosbob Feb 2019 #23
I sure love me some her! EffieBlack Feb 2019 #24
MSD Strong! ffr Feb 2019 #25
Excellent point... whathehell Feb 2019 #31
K&R! lilactime Feb 2019 #32
Great message. nt Honeycombe8 Feb 2019 #40
If we already have so many excessive suffocating gun laws, then how do the massacres keep happening? calimary Feb 2019 #41
"How does America repeatedly lead the world in gun violence, year after year" EX500rider Feb 2019 #47
K&R smirkymonkey Feb 2019 #42
That young woman needs to run for office some day! NT Adrahil Feb 2019 #43
Amazing young woman who is going to do good things for this country. llmart Feb 2019 #48
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