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89. Agree, even if you go with someone to their hotel to "pick up some papers" you don't go
Thu Feb 7, 2019, 04:09 PM
Feb 2019

up to the room with them. You wait in the lobby. It's common sense. I'm not saying Dr Tyson isn't telling the truth, but a woman sends a signal to a guy when she accompanies him to his room. Just as the man sends a signal when he says, "come on up to my room with me".

Let me put it another way. Let say the papers were at his home and he said come with me while I pick up my papers at my house/apt. When they get there should the woman stay in the car? I say yes. Why go in if he's just picking up something? If she does accompany him into the house, and he said my papers are in my bedroom come in with me while I get them, he is clearly sending a signal, and if the woman agrees, she too has sent a signal.

Having said all that, once they are in the bedroom, and the man makes a move the woman totally did not anticipate and wants to go, the man, regardless of how worked up he is, must let the woman go.

I have. Several times in my youth. demmiblue Feb 2019 #1
The convention was in the hotel I think. Could be wrong onit2day Feb 2019 #97
Her statement was the room they went into was in another hotel Cosmocat Feb 2019 #101
I agree but if I got there and changed my mind? What then? n/t Raven Feb 2019 #2
Hope the guy is one of the decent ones on this thread malaise Feb 2019 #116
Tyson was not on a date with Fairfax, according to spooky3 Feb 2019 #3
Agree...Worked a job that involved a lot of travel.. HipChick Feb 2019 #4
Same here malaise Feb 2019 #9
Was it David Spade? skypilot Feb 2019 #50
Hahaha - No n/t malaise Feb 2019 #58
Damn. skypilot Feb 2019 #59
At least finances didn't make you have to share. moriah Feb 2019 #61
Yours is a great post malaise Feb 2019 #62
Agree, even if you go with someone to their hotel to "pick up some papers" you don't go Fla Dem Feb 2019 #89
I don''t know if she has sent a signal malaise Feb 2019 #120
ouch bigtree Feb 2019 #5
Where were you when Mike Tyson needed you exboyfil Feb 2019 #6
In my field, in the 1980s, job interviews at conventions spooky3 Feb 2019 #8
I remember having a few interviews in hotel rooms xmas74 Feb 2019 #154
Have you ever on a business trip and been in the hotel of a male colleague? Hassin Bin Sober Feb 2019 #7
I've been on several trips malaise Feb 2019 #12
A date has nothing to do with being at a convention and accompanying a colleague to the hotel. Hassin Bin Sober Feb 2019 #15
I only went into colleagues rooms with others malaise Feb 2019 #17
that really shouldn't be going on dsc Feb 2019 #19
If my work tried to make me share a room with a coworker my response would be go to hell. 47of74 Feb 2019 #90
Look! Another way of saying, "She was asking for it!" Oneironaut Feb 2019 #10
+1 demmiblue Feb 2019 #14
Not only that, but building a strawman to say, "She was asking for it." Ms. Toad Feb 2019 #45
Right.....damn. AncientGeezer Feb 2019 #82
False equivalency, if Fairfax was a republican he supports an admitted sexual assaulter as leader of uponit7771 Feb 2019 #117
Irrelevant, as consent can be revoked at any point and for any reason. Marengo Feb 2019 #11
Really just wow Charlotte Little Feb 2019 #13
Every decision that a person makes, every action that a person takes avebury Feb 2019 #49
Not even relevant Charlotte Little Feb 2019 #84
There is no valid excuse for one person committing an unprovoked attack on another person avebury Feb 2019 #118
How much more are you willing to spend Charlotte Little Feb 2019 #133
I've never been on a date with a woman and ended up in a hotel room MineralMan Feb 2019 #16
Thank you brother malaise Feb 2019 #18
My pleasure. MineralMan Feb 2019 #30
You my dear brother are a gentleman malaise Feb 2019 #37
That's how my mother raised me. MineralMan Feb 2019 #44
A male friend once invited me to his room for a drink EffieBlack Feb 2019 #57
That's the point - there are gentlemen and there malaise Feb 2019 #60
This message was self-deleted by its author JudyM Feb 2019 #150
According to her statement, she went to his hotel room for the madaboutharry Feb 2019 #20
Well this coward would have received the documents malaise Feb 2019 #22
I would do the same and would have said something like: madaboutharry Feb 2019 #31
I don't trust easily malaise Feb 2019 #35
That is in fact where the situation is, and they both deserve to be heard. ooky Feb 2019 #46
So after walking in the door and kissing Bonx Feb 2019 #21
There is nothing right about it malaise Feb 2019 #25
So she should have known it was coming? maybe she even asked for it? Bonx Feb 2019 #27
Nor does it make sense (to me) that anyone would continue having any kind of contact ooky Feb 2019 #47
She says she didn't... AncientGeezer Feb 2019 #125
I have not seen that she continued contact at140 Feb 2019 #127
I saw a report on M$M where he was saying that ooky Feb 2019 #131
Motels always make me horny. panader0 Feb 2019 #23
Did you assume all types of sex would take place? MaryMagdaline Feb 2019 #24
That's a really good question malaise Feb 2019 #28
that is the main issue GetRidOfThem Feb 2019 #95
That is because you are decent malaise Feb 2019 #100
if we were all decent, we would not have these problems... GetRidOfThem Feb 2019 #136
So a woman consents to sex sarisataka Feb 2019 #26
That was my assumption malaise Feb 2019 #32
I guess I am more conservative sarisataka Feb 2019 #39
I think some people are missing a step here. MineralMan Feb 2019 #48
Thank you bro malaise Feb 2019 #52
Absolutely. I've had friends and colleagues tell me stories like that, too. MineralMan Feb 2019 #54
I think the OP is missing a step sarisataka Feb 2019 #64
I agree completely wih you on consent malaise Feb 2019 #111
And what difference would it make whether the idea of sex appealed to someone? onenote Feb 2019 #137
Of course they can change their minds. MineralMan Feb 2019 #138
Sort of. onenote Feb 2019 #141
ok that's just stupid qazplm135 Feb 2019 #29
Well if this story is true malaise Feb 2019 #38
if her story is true qazplm135 Feb 2019 #40
I'm not casting any aspersions malaise Feb 2019 #56
Mike Pence approves of this message. EllieBC Feb 2019 #33
This is just fucking gross. WTF?!! nt Guy Whitey Corngood Feb 2019 #34
Wow. LexVegas Feb 2019 #36
Lots of "wow" posts lately. johnp3907 Feb 2019 #69
This whole place got sort of "wow" all of a sudden. Codeine Feb 2019 #134
Would that our own anecdotal experiences be a projection of the world as a whole. LanternWaste Feb 2019 #41
Interesting. I was raped in a hotel room. AkFemDem Feb 2019 #42
They were not on a date. Ms. Toad Feb 2019 #43
Well Mr Fairfax would have retrieved the documents without me being in the room malaise Feb 2019 #55
But the premise in you OP was a strawman - Ms. Toad Feb 2019 #68
I am not blaming her malaise Feb 2019 #71
Sure seems as if you are. Ms. Toad Feb 2019 #75
When I was in my 20's I went into a hotel room with my employer pnwmom Feb 2019 #132
I have walked into the hotel room of a colleague without intending for sex to happen. moriah Feb 2019 #51
But note that I said on a date malaise Feb 2019 #63
Well, it wasn't a date, from what either of them say. moriah Feb 2019 #70
To me, "no means no". It doesn't matter where it gets said or when it gets said. nt Jarqui Feb 2019 #53
If no meant no so many of us would not malaise Feb 2019 #65
I'm sorry, I don't know if I understand what you are saying here. moriah Feb 2019 #72
All I am saying is there are more than a few men malaise Feb 2019 #74
Okay, thank the FSM. moriah Feb 2019 #76
Thank you. Nt raccoon Feb 2019 #83
what if it wasn't a date Fresh_Start Feb 2019 #66
Just stop obamanut2012 Feb 2019 #67
I'm sorry, malaise - this sounds like the Mike Tyson defense that was used bullwinkle428 Feb 2019 #73
FWIW, malaise, you have my support for having the courage to "go there" oasis Feb 2019 #77
Thanks malaise Feb 2019 #79
I traveled a lot for business more than half of the time with male colleagues Fresh_Start Feb 2019 #78
Nice way to say "asking for it" Devil Child Feb 2019 #80
It's simply not that simple. A sexual encounter ... Whiskeytide Feb 2019 #81
I can't argue with anything you have said malaise Feb 2019 #86
I get that. But it would be better if we ... Whiskeytide Feb 2019 #122
Great post malaise Feb 2019 #123
I think... Mike Nelson Feb 2019 #85
I agree malaise Feb 2019 #91
Damn.....that was hard to read. I'll let my sisters know... AncientGeezer Feb 2019 #87
Never went up for a few drinks to get a better idea of want you want? ismnotwasm Feb 2019 #88
Nope malaise Feb 2019 #93
On the other hand, I was nearly raped ismnotwasm Feb 2019 #108
Kudos for fighting back malaise Feb 2019 #109
Seems To Me the Most Emphatic Way to Have Said No Would Have Been With Her Teeth!! DoctorJoJo Feb 2019 #92
Really....using violence to stop violence...that's you go to? AncientGeezer Feb 2019 #104
Or Slugged Him In the Nuts--Your Choice. WTF Would YOU Have Done?? DoctorJoJo Feb 2019 #119
I'd have shot him, I have a CCP valid in Ma.....women in general...don't have that option. AncientGeezer Feb 2019 #124
Just this morning I was recalling a time when srobertss Feb 2019 #94
I had one who buzzed around until one day I asked him if malaise Feb 2019 #98
Thank YOU! DirtEdonE Feb 2019 #96
Do you consider a business convention to be a date? moriah Feb 2019 #103
I've been to business conventions DirtEdonE Feb 2019 #106
No puritan here malaise Feb 2019 #114
ugh. victim blaming at it's finest right here. m-lekktor Feb 2019 #99
Really? What are you really just saying? I bet you won't really say. 58Sunliner Feb 2019 #102
Kudos to Malaise for putting a thought out there and sticking around to discuss, debate. nt wiggs Feb 2019 #105
Like the comment.... wait for papers I'm the lobby LakeArenal Feb 2019 #107
Back in 1974, I had two friends (sisters) thrown out of a hotel window malaise Feb 2019 #121
Still and all, if I got out I never would remain silent. LakeArenal Feb 2019 #129
Same here malaise Feb 2019 #130
Geez. Back in the mid 80's when in college, at Fraternity shindigs, GulfCoast66 Feb 2019 #110
You are one of the men we love malaise Feb 2019 #112
The women gets raped. No fault of hers. GulfCoast66 Feb 2019 #113
I was very naive back in college and in my early 20's and would often go back to a guy's dorm smirkymonkey Feb 2019 #145
I have never assumed that if I could get a person into my room hughee99 Feb 2019 #115
I've never been on a date with a man, period JuJuYoshida Feb 2019 #126
I will never understand sex without consent... pbmus Feb 2019 #128
Really(what he Hell)....I don't get the OP. Walk through a hotel door and AncientGeezer Feb 2019 #135
The problem I have with the OP is that it reflects a mindset that has kept women down for ages onenote Feb 2019 #139
You are talking philosophy - how it ought to be - what we'd like it to be malaise Feb 2019 #142
It sounds like you are accepting (and implicitly defending) the perpetuation of a way of thinking onenote Feb 2019 #153
I too think it is tragic malaise Feb 2019 #155
I always thought "no" meant no... no matter what. InAbLuEsTaTe Feb 2019 #140
I agree with you, but it might take others longer to learn ecstatic Feb 2019 #143
As a man, I have always my female companions dictate where things go... IluvPitties Feb 2019 #144
I replied earlier with an anecdote about my college years. GulfCoast66 Feb 2019 #146
Your wife is a lucky woman malaise Feb 2019 #147
Not sure she would agree!! GulfCoast66 Feb 2019 #148
Learned the hard way vercetti2021 Feb 2019 #149
I have, more than once. greatauntoftriplets Feb 2019 #151
Hehehehhee malaise Feb 2019 #156
K&R stonecutter357 Feb 2019 #152
And yet Dorian Gray Feb 2019 #157
I totally agree with you malaise Feb 2019 #158
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