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NurseJackie

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135. Are you "happy to hear him talking about"...

Reply to Autumn (Reply #110)

Sun Feb 17, 2019, 12:22 PM

Feb 2019

Always happy to hear him talking about the problems we face

Are you "happy to hear him talking about" divisive smears of how the Democrats are "ideologically bankrupt" and Democrats are "feeble".

Do you agree with the claim that Democrats are "corrupt" and that the Democratic party is an "absolute failure"? -- I certainly don't agree with it... so I'm wondering how this can be "music to your ears".

I'm good with him running again.

Are you also "good with him" making false accusations that the Democratic party is "the party of the one-percent" or that the Democratic party is the "party of the elite".

All I'm trying to say here is that these things are divisive and do not encourage others to vote for Democrats, or to support the Democratic party. It doesn't encourage volunteerism, participation, or donors.

Things like that serve no good purpose at all. What it actually does it create distrust and division and that weakens the party. It destroys the party's resolve and unity. A disunited party is a weak party, and that ONLY serves to benefit the GOP, and Trump, and Russia.

That's not music to my years. We can do better. We need a candidate who can unite us... and he's not the one.

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Bernie Sanders records video announcing 2020 campaign [View all] JoeOtterbein Feb 2019 OP

No path to victory. Not going to be VP or in the cabinet. No need to boost public profile. Garrett78 Feb 2019 #1

Maybe he'll team up as Schultz's VP for an independent run madville Feb 2019 #12

Realclearpolitics has him in 2nd place behind Biden in the latest tracking. CentralMass Feb 2019 #178

Name recognition. Polls, including the hypothetical matchup ones, are meaningless at this point. Garrett78 Feb 2019 #184

I'll support him. Joe941 Feb 2019 #2

Me too. nt Snotcicles Feb 2019 #3

Me three!!! InAbLuEsTaTe Feb 2019 #13

I WON'T. trueblue2007 Feb 2019 #18

I would oppose him with every fiber of my being! kennetha Feb 2019 #20

+1 grantcart Feb 2019 #27

What if he's the Democratic nominee though? aidbo Feb 2019 #46

He won't be. Don't worry. NurseJackie Feb 2019 #60

Without support from African. AMERICAN voters, this cannot happen Gothmog Feb 2019 #114

Agreed. Adrahil Feb 2019 #47

I am totally with you wryter2000 Feb 2019 #65

And this time, he can't claim it's to try to push Dems to be more progressive Empowerer Feb 2019 #117

Yes. kstewart33 Feb 2019 #122

Agreed! DemKittyNC Feb 2019 #52

Me too!!!!! jrthin Feb 2019 #64

+1 nt Kahuna7 Feb 2019 #108

Ditto. Will not vote for a socialist. n/t Lucid Dreamer Feb 2019 #119

Same. I will ONLY vote for him if he is the Democratic nominee. Runningdawg Feb 2019 #142

A large number of actual members of the Democratic Party have long memories Gothmog Feb 2019 #148

Me as well pandr32 Feb 2019 #151

So would I...Ralph Nader cost Gore the election....Bush winning the election resulted in Stuart G Feb 2019 #166

I'll support Bernie with every fiber of my being!! InAbLuEsTaTe Feb 2019 #176

Me 4. nt Doremus Feb 2019 #179

Is he running for the Democratic Nomination? NightWatcher Feb 2019 #4

No doubt when it is convenient still_one Feb 2019 #5

Just as convenient as when he votes with the Dems (which is far more than many Dems do) nt Doremus Feb 2019 #180

No doubt... only way I'll vote for him. InAbLuEsTaTe Feb 2019 #14

bernie is NOT A DEMOCRAT!!! if he changes just to run .... that is just opportunistic. trueblue2007 Feb 2019 #19

And dishonest and manipulative and ..... NightWatcher Feb 2019 #22

I expect better. Loyalty. NurseJackie Feb 2019 #62

Bernie's more of a Democrat than most Democrats based on his voting record. InAbLuEsTaTe Feb 2019 #132

Then why does he call the party "ideologically bankrupt"? betsuni Feb 2019 #175

Are you saying you prefer Bernie caucus with the (R)s? Just for the record. nt Doremus Feb 2019 #181

HE trashs the Democratic Party as much as Trump, no doubt trueblue2007 Feb 2019 #185

He votes with the Dems more than some actual Dems. Doremus Feb 2019 #186

this Baltimike Feb 2019 #172

While trashing the Democratic Party more than Trump, no doubt Clash City Rocker Feb 2019 #30

Might too little too late Seasider Feb 2019 #6

I do hope that Democrats will finally conclude that he is not a Democrat question everything Feb 2019 #7

He has such contempt for our party... NurseJackie Feb 2019 #71

I wish he wouldn't. I see no purpose for him stirring these things theophilus Feb 2019 #8

"Bernie adds nothing"?! LOL, that's why every serious declared candidate so far has adopted the same InAbLuEsTaTe Feb 2019 #150

Fool me once ... etc. nt Apollyonus Feb 2019 #9

I think ole Bernie snowybirdie Feb 2019 #10

no doubt he will conveniently become a Democrat again, but hopefully with California moving their still_one Feb 2019 #11

Even if the race isn't decided by Super Tuesday, as it was in 2016, Sanders won't be in the running. Garrett78 Feb 2019 #35

His base argues that it is to push his issues still_one Feb 2019 #39

He's done that. And Democrats, generally speaking, have the same positions. Garrett78 Feb 2019 #45

I agree still_one Feb 2019 #50

No path to victory? I hope you are right. comradebillyboy Feb 2019 #57

If you look at the primary schedule, it gets really rough for Sanders after New Hampshire. Garrett78 Feb 2019 #82

Yes, and wryter2000 Feb 2019 #67

It appears that sanders latest poorly reviewed book is not selling Gothmog Feb 2019 #149

Sanders is last year's news. No way he can compete with the Ds who have already announced. stopbush Feb 2019 #15

HARD PASS nt backabby-blue Feb 2019 #16

MEANIE!!!!! QC Feb 2019 #17

NO! peggysue2 Feb 2019 #21

And I'll point out that Kamala's voting record is almost identical to Warren's. Garrett78 Feb 2019 #37

I like them both and . . . peggysue2 Feb 2019 #40

Except that Warren has 6 years to KH's 2 years. aikoaiko Feb 2019 #87

Kamala appears to be the chosen one... Stellar Feb 2019 #101

Do you know that they weren't offered one? Empowerer Feb 2019 #118

Klobuchar has 1 coming up, and we don't know if others have declined. Garrett78 Feb 2019 #137

Not so I like Klobuchar and I tell ya what when there are those INdemo Feb 2019 #155

I didn't say anything about not liking Klobuchar. Garrett78 Feb 2019 #161

Ok... INdemo Feb 2019 #164

He could do so much more for his issues by endorsing musicblind Feb 2019 #89

Just go away Bernie. Little Star Feb 2019 #23

🙄nt helpisontheway Feb 2019 #24

No more Bernie. honest.abe Feb 2019 #25

No comment RandySF Feb 2019 #26

Nope NastyRiffraff Feb 2019 #28

I would be happy to give him MuseRider Feb 2019 #29

What about his tax returns? Apollyonus Feb 2019 #127

Perhaps if you read the entire post, it really was not too long, MuseRider Feb 2019 #130

He only sent two pages of a 2014 return Apollyonus Feb 2019 #131

WTH? MuseRider Feb 2019 #134

Very much. Thank you kindly. nt Apollyonus Feb 2019 #140

I can't wait to hear BS answer debate questions about the allegations of sexual violence lapucelle Feb 2019 #31

Those will be interesting questions Gothmog Feb 2019 #115

Bernie Supporters at Reddit riverine Feb 2019 #32

Some Democrats do want Bernie's help. I'm one of them. aikoaiko Feb 2019 #94

What help? Apollyonus Feb 2019 #125

He helps us voice more lefter positions. aikoaiko Feb 2019 #154

Cool story bro n/t Apollyonus Feb 2019 #157

I really want to see sanders' tax returns Gothmog Feb 2019 #33

Abssolutely Apollyonus Feb 2019 #51

To get on the ballot in Maryland, sanders will have to release tax reurns Gothmog Feb 2019 #63

I can't imagine he'll still be in the race on April 28. 2016 was tailor-made for Sanders. Garrett78 Feb 2019 #95

The filing deadline for Maryland will be long before the primary date Gothmog Feb 2019 #96

Good point. When is the deadline, I wonder. Garrett78 Feb 2019 #97

Is that true? The last I heard the Maryland State Senate passed that bill, but the House never even Midwestern Democrat Feb 2019 #113

This bill was signed Gothmog Feb 2019 #183

Meh Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin Feb 2019 #34

lol ! stonecutter357 Feb 2019 #36

So he's saying that none of the ones who've already declared are any good? KitSileya Feb 2019 #38

Well, ya know they are only running on being women or POC.... Adrahil Feb 2019 #126

Yeah, because their detailed policies, practical solutions, and in-depth knowledge KitSileya Feb 2019 #145

Bernie will get to the bottom of Trump's tax return concealment. oasis Feb 2019 #41

Not concealing his own would be a great start. BannonsLiver Feb 2019 #44

lulz nt Apollyonus Feb 2019 #54

Whoopie... /s nt GemDigger Feb 2019 #42

The rules have changed and now sanders will have to join the party if he wants to run Gothmog Feb 2019 #43

Or it will cause him to run as an Indie, split the vote and we're stuck with Trump. Vinca Feb 2019 #48

Anyone who votes for an independent deserves Trump. LongtimeAZDem Feb 2019 #53

That's nice, but it also means we're stuck with Trump. Vinca Feb 2019 #85

That's why we need to get out the vote for the real Democrats LongtimeAZDem Feb 2019 #90

Most of us will, but Bernie is a far bigger threat to split the vote than the Starbucks guy. Vinca Feb 2019 #105

Sanders isn't going to run as a 3rd party candidate. Garrett78 Feb 2019 #138

His legacy would then remain as a spoiler .. forever nt Apollyonus Feb 2019 #55

Nader is still hated for his efforts to give W the 2000 election Gothmog Feb 2019 #61

I know I still hate him wryter2000 Feb 2019 #68

Nader was rove's puppet Gothmog Feb 2019 #83

As are his supporters. I hate them all. NurseJackie Feb 2019 #70

Same here Gothmog Feb 2019 #79

That would kill his book sales Gothmog Feb 2019 #59

yawn nt Apollyonus Feb 2019 #49

Bernie is all about Bernie. Stay in the Senate. SCRUBDASHRUB Feb 2019 #56

And ... while losing the primary Apollyonus Feb 2019 #66

Exactly. honest.abe Feb 2019 #84

You nailed him. He will also continue to run/campaign Kahuna7 Feb 2019 #109

+1000 nt Apollyonus Feb 2019 #121

And attacks on real Democrats like Congressman John Lewis Gothmog Feb 2019 #163

Oh for fucks sake. BlueStater Feb 2019 #58

I have a $100 donation ready for the day he announces. eom roody Feb 2019 #69

I love Bernie !!! SamKnause Feb 2019 #72

Do you agree with someone who says that... NurseJackie Feb 2019 #74

Nothing says 'vote for Dems' like bashing the entire Dem Party! Chemisse Feb 2019 #77

You're absolutely correct! It serves no good purpose for anyone... NurseJackie Feb 2019 #81

I love Bernie but I'm concerned he would swap back to Independent once elected PTWB Feb 2019 #73

Nothing. Nothing at all. NurseJackie Feb 2019 #75

Sanders altered the conversation. we see that through our 2020 candidates. Kurt V. Feb 2019 #76

Which Sanders is More Destructive? Darson Feb 2019 #78

+1000 nt Apollyonus Feb 2019 #124

Win or lose Bernie has been a big reason the Democratic Party is moving in the right direction. jalan48 Feb 2019 #80

Nope. Thank you, next. grossproffit Feb 2019 #86

I welcome Bernie as much as anyone at this point. aikoaiko Feb 2019 #88

hear, hear! Stellar Feb 2019 #104

Same here. aikoaiko Feb 2019 #153

Oh brother! GMAFB! Nobody is saying that. NurseJackie Feb 2019 #143

There are plenty of people telling Bernie to go away aikoaiko Feb 2019 #152

Nobody is chasing away Bernie supporters. NurseJackie Feb 2019 #156

What I'm talking about has nothing to do with Bernie's feelings aikoaiko Feb 2019 #165

Neither was I. NurseJackie Feb 2019 #167

He has been a parasite on the Democratic party; he deserves no more help from us. LongtimeAZDem Feb 2019 #91

I think it would be great if he runs! David__77 Feb 2019 #92

What's positive about having anyone falsely claim there's "no difference" NurseJackie Feb 2019 #93

It is not good enough to say, 'Hey, I'm an independent senator, runner-up in the 2016 contest for betsuni Feb 2019 #98

I love Bernie and he is my first choice. Stellar Feb 2019 #99

Who are "corporate Democrats"? betsuni Feb 2019 #100

Poster is using a divisive slam. . . . nt Bernardo de La Paz Feb 2019 #120

Sorry, BS is too divisive.. I want to Win.. Cha Feb 2019 #168

Mahalo! NurseJackie Feb 2019 #170

Yes, We Want to WIN!! Another BLUE WAVE!!! Cha Feb 2019 #173

He's had two years to get his tax returns together. So when will he release them? n/t pnwmom Feb 2019 #102

I don't understand this: betsuni Feb 2019 #103

I dislike her a lot... NurseJackie Feb 2019 #133

Reality check. AOC is going to endorse him padah513 Feb 2019 #106

I'm not sure that will matter much. kstewart33 Feb 2019 #123

What has AOC accomplished, again?!? Oh, right. She got elected. And then?? PubliusEnigma Feb 2019 #129

I'd give her more than one month to show what she can accomplish. nt Stellar Feb 2019 #159

Supported him. Then supported Hillary. Will not support him this time. rainin Feb 2019 #107

Bernie's a contender and I'm good with him running again. Autumn Feb 2019 #110

Are you "happy to hear him talking about"... NurseJackie Feb 2019 #135

Here's a difference Jackie. I listen to what he says, not out of context snippets. As long as Bernie Autumn Feb 2019 #136

Oh it's very clear what he's saying, Autumn. NurseJackie Feb 2019 #139

I don't take issue with you liking him but he has no shot at getting nominated. Garrett78 Feb 2019 #141

There are several others who have no shot at getting nominated. I'm stiill good with Autumn Feb 2019 #144

But, we can make some fairly accurate educated guesses using common sense. NurseJackie Feb 2019 #146

Some run to be considered for VP or a cabinet post. Or to boost their public profile. Garrett78 Feb 2019 #158

It doesn't matter if it's all downhill after New Hampshire for Sanders. As far as I'm concerned Autumn Feb 2019 #160

Allies are supposed to be supportive. NurseJackie Feb 2019 #162

The Second Time Around DemocratSinceBirth Feb 2019 #111

I like Bernie just fine...but just like last time he ain't getting my vote in a DEMOCRATIC primary. UniteFightBack Feb 2019 #112

I'm So Excited DemocratSinceBirth Feb 2019 #116

Time to fade away now, Bernie. PubliusEnigma Feb 2019 #128

He got clobbered in Florida during the 2016 primary: Scurrilous Feb 2019 #147

I would respect this so much more had he worked to get Clinton elected. NT WeekiWater Feb 2019 #169

And all the Democrats with her. We were a shoo-in for control of the senate! Hortensis Feb 2019 #171

I'm tired of clicking off Sanders, don't want more. How about Ralph Nader instead?! Hortensis Feb 2019 #174

I like Bernie Sanders, but time to give the next genreration the baton..... ProudMNDemocrat Feb 2019 #177

Hopefully he'll push the party left again this time, as he did in 2016. Doremus Feb 2019 #182