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In reply to the discussion: Bernie Sanders records video announcing 2020 campaign [View all]NurseJackie
(42,862 posts)167. Neither was I.
165. What I'm talking about has nothing to do with Bernie's feelings
Its about voters and the messages we send them.
Neither was I. All I'm saying is, by and large, those voters being referring to are NOT petty and selfish, and they ARE mature enough to understand that righteous criticism of Bernie isn't a personal attack against them.
Its about voters and the messages we send them.
Although you've been very careful and have not come right out and said the words directly, I get the impression that there may be lingering doubts about their maturity or integrity. In a way, it almost (but not quite) reminds me of the veiled threats of the past where a certain segment swore not to support anyone but. But that really wouldn't serve any good purpose.
All I'm saying is, at this juncture, I believe differently and I have hope that those individuals will do the right thing rather than to indulge their vanities and egos.
Its about voters and the messages we send them.
And as a quick follow-up to that point. I do believe that it's a mistake for anyone to send ANY message to the voters that falsely suggests that the Democrats or the Democratic party is "corrupt" or "ideologically bankrupt" or "the party of the one percent" or "the party of the elite" or that "there's no difference" between the parties or that we are "owned by Wall Street".
Those are the false and dangerous messages that weaken and divide our party and those LIES need to stop. I'll continue to speak out against those lies and smears until the day I die (or until the lies come to an end).
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No path to victory. Not going to be VP or in the cabinet. No need to boost public profile.
Garrett78
Feb 2019
#1
Realclearpolitics has him in 2nd place behind Biden in the latest tracking.
CentralMass
Feb 2019
#178
Name recognition. Polls, including the hypothetical matchup ones, are meaningless at this point.
Garrett78
Feb 2019
#184
And this time, he can't claim it's to try to push Dems to be more progressive
Empowerer
Feb 2019
#117
So would I...Ralph Nader cost Gore the election....Bush winning the election resulted in
Stuart G
Feb 2019
#166
Just as convenient as when he votes with the Dems (which is far more than many Dems do) nt
Doremus
Feb 2019
#180
bernie is NOT A DEMOCRAT!!! if he changes just to run .... that is just opportunistic.
trueblue2007
Feb 2019
#19
Bernie's more of a Democrat than most Democrats based on his voting record.
InAbLuEsTaTe
Feb 2019
#132
Are you saying you prefer Bernie caucus with the (R)s? Just for the record. nt
Doremus
Feb 2019
#181
I do hope that Democrats will finally conclude that he is not a Democrat
question everything
Feb 2019
#7
"Bernie adds nothing"?! LOL, that's why every serious declared candidate so far has adopted the same
InAbLuEsTaTe
Feb 2019
#150
no doubt he will conveniently become a Democrat again, but hopefully with California moving their
still_one
Feb 2019
#11
Even if the race isn't decided by Super Tuesday, as it was in 2016, Sanders won't be in the running.
Garrett78
Feb 2019
#35
If you look at the primary schedule, it gets really rough for Sanders after New Hampshire.
Garrett78
Feb 2019
#82
Sanders is last year's news. No way he can compete with the Ds who have already announced.
stopbush
Feb 2019
#15
And I'll point out that Kamala's voting record is almost identical to Warren's.
Garrett78
Feb 2019
#37
I can't wait to hear BS answer debate questions about the allegations of sexual violence
lapucelle
Feb 2019
#31
I can't imagine he'll still be in the race on April 28. 2016 was tailor-made for Sanders.
Garrett78
Feb 2019
#95
Is that true? The last I heard the Maryland State Senate passed that bill, but the House never even
Midwestern Democrat
Feb 2019
#113
Yeah, because their detailed policies, practical solutions, and in-depth knowledge
KitSileya
Feb 2019
#145
The rules have changed and now sanders will have to join the party if he wants to run
Gothmog
Feb 2019
#43
Or it will cause him to run as an Indie, split the vote and we're stuck with Trump.
Vinca
Feb 2019
#48
Most of us will, but Bernie is a far bigger threat to split the vote than the Starbucks guy.
Vinca
Feb 2019
#105
Win or lose Bernie has been a big reason the Democratic Party is moving in the right direction.
jalan48
Feb 2019
#80
He has been a parasite on the Democratic party; he deserves no more help from us.
LongtimeAZDem
Feb 2019
#91
It is not good enough to say, 'Hey, I'm an independent senator, runner-up in the 2016 contest for
betsuni
Feb 2019
#98
He's had two years to get his tax returns together. So when will he release them? n/t
pnwmom
Feb 2019
#102
What has AOC accomplished, again?!? Oh, right. She got elected. And then??
PubliusEnigma
Feb 2019
#129
Here's a difference Jackie. I listen to what he says, not out of context snippets. As long as Bernie
Autumn
Feb 2019
#136
I don't take issue with you liking him but he has no shot at getting nominated.
Garrett78
Feb 2019
#141
There are several others who have no shot at getting nominated. I'm stiill good with
Autumn
Feb 2019
#144
But, we can make some fairly accurate educated guesses using common sense.
NurseJackie
Feb 2019
#146
Some run to be considered for VP or a cabinet post. Or to boost their public profile.
Garrett78
Feb 2019
#158
It doesn't matter if it's all downhill after New Hampshire for Sanders. As far as I'm concerned
Autumn
Feb 2019
#160
I like Bernie just fine...but just like last time he ain't getting my vote in a DEMOCRATIC primary.
UniteFightBack
Feb 2019
#112
And all the Democrats with her. We were a shoo-in for control of the senate!
Hortensis
Feb 2019
#171
I'm tired of clicking off Sanders, don't want more. How about Ralph Nader instead?!
Hortensis
Feb 2019
#174
I like Bernie Sanders, but time to give the next genreration the baton.....
ProudMNDemocrat
Feb 2019
#177