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anarch

(6,535 posts)
7. not a lawyer, but the sense I get is that yeah, they're saying this specific crime can't be proved
Wed Apr 17, 2019, 09:07 PM
Apr 2019

beyond a reasonable doubt. Which is of course not to say "there's no evidence" or "it didn't happen" etc.

By simple logic, this can almost certainly be attributed at least in part to the successful obstruction of the investigation by Individual 1 and his accomplices. Evidence regarding such obstruction, if I understand correctly, was then intended to be presented to congress for their consideration as to whether it constituted sufficient reason to take further action, etc.

The AG then interjected himself into the whole process and came out with his pronouncements, and frankly I'll be amazed if anything we don't already know about gets exposed in whatever actually gets released to the public from the SCO report.

K&R, Barr or Mueller mentioned "Russian government" also knowing damn well Putin would uponit7771 Apr 2019 #1
And it has to be between them and GOVT OFFICIALS, another BULLSHIT Eliot Rosewater Apr 2019 #3
+1 uponit7771 Apr 2019 #4
What it means is that there was collusion. The report will be damning. nt UniteFightBack Apr 2019 #2
No, it means unless it is in writing or on tape that they made an agreement to collude, there wont Eliot Rosewater Apr 2019 #5
I'm not surprised at this...I was expecting it now that I know what the legal requirements are to UniteFightBack Apr 2019 #9
but those ARE NOT THE LEGAL requirements, that is the WHOLE POINT of the article Eliot Rosewater Apr 2019 #10
We still need to see the full report - no redactions FakeNoose Apr 2019 #6
not a lawyer, but the sense I get is that yeah, they're saying this specific crime can't be proved anarch Apr 2019 #7
They are using the WRONG definition of what you have to have to prove it Eliot Rosewater Apr 2019 #8
yeah...weasel words and more obfuscation anarch Apr 2019 #11
What the hell is "If it is what you say it is, I love it" if not a tacit agreement??? RockRaven Apr 2019 #12
Yes but EVEN That is NOT the legal requirement. I think most are missing the point of this article Eliot Rosewater Apr 2019 #13
OP, read up on difference between "collusion" (not a legal term) and "criminal conspiracy" which yes Kashkakat v.2.0 Apr 2019 #14
NO the point is they are using the WRONG definition, so YES there IS Eliot Rosewater Apr 2019 #15
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