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Codeine

(25,586 posts)
64. Of course some aren't.
Wed May 29, 2019, 05:49 PM
May 2019

That’s almost certainly less to do with cursive or clocks and more to do with staring mindlessly at phones all day instead of playing with toys or running around with other kids.

If it could be shown that one cohort of children taught cursive had superior neural development than a similar cohort of children who weren’t taught cursive then I would be convinced, all things being equal.

I learned cursive but never really mastered it, and simply didn’t use it. I don’t feel like my own development suffered beyond having crappy penmanship. I learned analog clock skills because digital clocks were unusual before everyone started getting VCRs and we discovered the magic of the perpetually flashing 12:00.

Your argument isn’t wrong, it just seems like a repeat of every generation complaining about the next and how doomed they are. Most kids seem like they’ll be fine, and the ones that won’t probably would have been just as screwed thirty years ago, or three hundred years ago.

My 10-year-old grand nephew cannot. trev May 2019 #1
AM or PM? CrispyQ May 2019 #2
Analog clocks are more natural, IMO. trev May 2019 #6
analog clock began with the sundial DBoon May 2019 #80
True. trev May 2019 #81
While I recognize the difference customerserviceguy May 2019 #87
Wow, that's just unbelievable! Ohiogal May 2019 #3
Hah! Me too... hlthe2b May 2019 #4
I am 51 and can not read a face clock well at all. Doreen May 2019 #5
Spatial recognition is affected by a number of neural patterns... hlthe2b May 2019 #7
If I had children, despite my problem Doreen May 2019 #16
Forget it! gratuitous May 2019 #8
It isn't simply a matter of new methods replacing the old. hlthe2b May 2019 #11
So spend time teaching music or art gratuitous May 2019 #13
That is helful too. It needn't be an either or. But I do think it criminal not to teach children hlthe2b May 2019 #37
Do children want to read historical documents? gratuitous May 2019 #48
If you took some time to research neurodevelopment, I don't think you'd be hlthe2b May 2019 #52
Our local schools have music programs, thankfully. Codeine May 2019 #73
Yes, the lack of classical greek in schools is a real shame. X_Digger May 2019 #54
Obviously you know if you read my previous posts that that is not what I'm saying at all, but hlthe2b May 2019 #55
Yes, you're focused on *your* little slice. X_Digger May 2019 #58
There is a saying about hlthe2b May 2019 #59
Greek history is close to 3,000 years old. Cursive? Not so much. X_Digger May 2019 #62
Only a specific subset of historical documents Codeine May 2019 #71
One's parents letters are technically historical documents. hlthe2b May 2019 #72
It isn't like reading modern cursive is hard. Codeine May 2019 #74
Cursive writing is making a comeback in classrooms in several states -- and Texas is the latest hlthe2b May 2019 #76
I don't think it ever really left in California. Codeine May 2019 #78
So before written language and clocks humans lacked these skills? GulfCoast66 May 2019 #14
I NEVER said there wasn't. But there is a gap in those not learning. hlthe2b May 2019 #38
An ell's half a yard, innit? MineralMan May 2019 #20
The manager of a local car repair shop matt819 May 2019 #9
Of course not. Why would they? MineralMan May 2019 #10
A quarter hour is a quarter hour zipplewrath May 2019 #27
On an analog clock, one can instantly see the circle MineralMan May 2019 #32
I sorta understand zipplewrath May 2019 #40
I don't know that they do. MineralMan May 2019 #57
Learning analog time is a great way to develop numeracy - fluency with numbers. Persondem May 2019 #42
Guess they don't need to learn reading either. There are now audio books. llmart May 2019 #45
Most kids still like to learn things. Codeine May 2019 #67
I agree. llmart May 2019 #68
I taught my son to read a clock way back in the 1970s lunatica May 2019 #12
I learned how in the 90s pstokely May 2019 #88
I am amazed at how many adults ... GeorgeGist May 2019 #15
Why can't millennials use an abacus? nt Dr Hobbitstein May 2019 #18
Actually, probably more millennials can than boomers. MineralMan May 2019 #25
And even fewer who can properly orient one. MineralMan May 2019 #21
I asked my son to thatch the roof. Codeine May 2019 #75
Or better yet adults that drive but cannot read a map. When the phone stops they are toast. essme May 2019 #82
I don't think I can read a sundial. JustABozoOnThisBus May 2019 #17
They can't use dial phones, either. TygrBright May 2019 #19
Not so much any longer. Since broadcast TV went digital, MineralMan May 2019 #23
This thread made me realize Codeine May 2019 #79
I had a boss whose kids didnt know how to use a key KatyaR May 2019 #22
Now, that's funny! MineralMan May 2019 #24
My kid didn't know until recently. Codeine May 2019 #46
Dn't think there is any benefit to knowing how to read a face clock. delisen May 2019 #26
Until someone wants to give you a heading. zipplewrath May 2019 #30
Interesting. If we had never had face clocks what would have been devised delisen May 2019 #34
Probably moon/star/sun references zipplewrath May 2019 #39
Thanks. delisen May 2019 #41
Analog clocks are a great way to develop numeracy - fluency with numbers. Persondem May 2019 #43
My 13 year old granddaughter can't. sinkingfeeling May 2019 #28
Does anyone know how many people correctly answered that didn't make the cut? cynatnite May 2019 #29
Or their 15 seconds of fame zipplewrath May 2019 #31
That wouldn't surprise me, especially if they know what show they represent. n/t cynatnite May 2019 #33
A quarter to 5 still makes sense Midnightwalk May 2019 #35
We learned Roman Numerals one year in grade school. happybird May 2019 #83
That can not possibly be real. SammyWinstonJack May 2019 #36
They probably can't milk a cow Codeine May 2019 #44
that isn't the point at all. It is the neural development that comes from such spatial learning hlthe2b May 2019 #47
Kids who don't know Roman numerals, write cursive doesn't make them less smart... cynatnite May 2019 #49
Whoah. I NEVER said anything of the kind. It is a tool that helps teach spatial development and hlthe2b May 2019 #50
Horrific??? cynatnite May 2019 #51
But they gain those skills elsewhere. Codeine May 2019 #60
Do they though?. There are studies showing not all kids are. hlthe2b May 2019 #61
Of course some aren't. Codeine May 2019 #64
There have been studies showing the impact hlthe2b May 2019 #66
My grandson can't write or read cursive. AJT May 2019 #53
He'll develop a signature. Codeine May 2019 #56
Lazy comedy and, to me, not a big concern. Including the cursive thing -- people have been WhiskeyGrinder May 2019 #63
I was among the last to use slide rules, log, and trig tables in math and science classes. hunter May 2019 #65
Digital time destroys the visual perception of "impending" time. VOX May 2019 #69
I did not learn to tell time until I was in 4th grade. PoindexterOglethorpe May 2019 #70
Yup. "Cursive writing is making a comeback in classrooms in several states -- and Texas is latest" hlthe2b May 2019 #77
I was tortured to learn cursive, fifth grade through a few middle school teachers. hunter May 2019 #85
In current dementia tests, one of the tasks is to draw DeminPennswoods May 2019 #84
My undergrads must be exceptional then, 'cause given how often they all look back at the petronius May 2019 #86
if you are in the Medicare Wellness Exams - you are probably asked elfin May 2019 #89
There are at least a dozen analog clocks in our house. MineralMan May 2019 #90
My wife sets the clocks ahead 10-12 minutes Codeine May 2019 #91
Yup. "I still have ten minutes, so no hurry." MineralMan May 2019 #93
Correct answer: Impeachment Time Blue Owl May 2019 #92
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