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31. Especially with an attached garage.

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Tue Jun 18, 2019, 09:10 AM

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A word of caution: His keyless car killed him while he slept. New legislation could save others [View all] mfcorey1 Jun 2019 OP

My MIL"s friend died the same way. woodsprite Jun 2019 #1

Are they forgetting to turn off the engine? 3Hotdogs Jun 2019 #2

Probably forgot to turn it off radical noodle Jun 2019 #32

some cars can be remote started with a key fob. unblock Jun 2019 #39

my great-aunt's 5th husband died in the garage starting his normal car, but he was older. around 80. pansypoo53219 Jun 2019 #3

I had to teach my kids that. MissB Jun 2019 #4

Wow, that's scary. marybourg Jun 2019 #61

That's only late middle age here on DU. marybourg Jun 2019 #59

To hell with keyless cars, for many reasons. Dave Starsky Jun 2019 #5

My Hertz rental Chevy had the key fob Submariner Jun 2019 #10

I'm sure customers have been flying away with rental car keys for decades. Hassin Bin Sober Jun 2019 #52

Electronic switching is cheaper than mechanical switching. Dr Hobbitstein Jun 2019 #14

It may be cheaper for the car company. Dave Starsky Jun 2019 #16

My 04 VW and '10 Mercury both have keyed ignitions. Dr Hobbitstein Jun 2019 #18

That's what they charge. It's not what the true value is. defacto7 Jun 2019 #25

This message was self-deleted by its author Chin music Jun 2019 #28

When I bought my new Prius the salesguy said the keyless device costs about $300 to replace sop Jun 2019 #30

I'm aware of that. Dr Hobbitstein Jun 2019 #87

it has vastly more to do with how much you need the key fob than how much it costs to make one. unblock Jun 2019 #41

I always keep mine on a watch chain. Kablooie Jun 2019 #21

Keyless sucks. I hate when car companies take control of the vehicle defacto7 Jun 2019 #24

Manual locks are easier to jimmy than hacking a keyless lock. LanternWaste Jun 2019 #63

An immobilizer key does the job as well or better than keyless. Dave Starsky Jun 2019 #71

CO detectors in the home ought to be a requirement Kaleva Jun 2019 #72

My house is all electric. Dave Starsky Jun 2019 #73

I don't think it's your intention to argue that you need protection from your car. Kaleva Jun 2019 #75

I have smoke detectors in almost every room. Dave Starsky Jun 2019 #77

A CO detector may still be a good idea for you if you have an attached garage. Kaleva Jun 2019 #78

Because you don't know what appliances people are bringing into the home. Dave Starsky Jun 2019 #83

CO detectors are required in all new construction Michigan Kaleva Jun 2019 #85

Key fob dead? Here is how to start the car. Lucid Dreamer Jun 2019 #90

In my hybrid Sonata customerserviceguy Jun 2019 #104

I hate to love keyless entry but moonscape Jun 2019 #108

They'll take my keyless fob when they pry it from my cold, dead fingers. Dave Starsky Jun 2019 #115

Last year I got my first keyless car. I forget quite often to turn it off, but the bells remind me. Hoyt Jun 2019 #6

I left mine running for four hours in the yard of my home. mfcorey1 Jun 2019 #9

It is easy to do. Glad it was outside. Hoyt Jun 2019 #11

I have a keyless car. luvtheGWN Jun 2019 #15

That's me, too. Hybrid car, you'd never hear that you left it on by accident. There is an alarm Nay Jun 2019 #17

Same here my Prius so quiet marlakay Jun 2019 #95

Oh yeah, I'm always leaving the fob in the house. Truthfully, I'd rather have an old style key. Hoyt Jun 2019 #100

Me too when i found out replacing marlakay Jun 2019 #107

CO detectors save lives! Nt USALiberal Jun 2019 #7

I absolutely insist on having them, in the garage and in the house. Mariana Jun 2019 #48

Should have a CO detector on the car so it detects when it's running in an enclosed space. Gidney N Cloyd Jun 2019 #66

I have a keyless car. tammywammy Jun 2019 #8

Mine alerts me spinbaby Jun 2019 #12

Plus a Prius will NOT lock if you leave the key fob inside the car csziggy Jun 2019 #80

The problem is the tailpipe. Ron Green Jun 2019 #13

Plus ++++++++ Tikki Jun 2019 #19

Wikipedia says that the U.S. has more electric cars per capita than Europe. sl8 Jun 2019 #29

There should be ways to disable it IronLionZion Jun 2019 #20

My Ford F150 does that fescuerescue Jun 2019 #68

My Mazda CX-5 has a keyless fob. Thankfully it is a ALBliberal Jun 2019 #22

I would be shocked if a CX-5 would allow you to lock the doors from the outside, AtheistCrusader Jun 2019 #27

Most cars do actually fescuerescue Jun 2019 #69

I have not experienced this. At minimum, the key that unlocked the doors cannot be locked inside. AtheistCrusader Jun 2019 #82

My wife has a Mazda with keyless fob. Codeine Jun 2019 #37

Keep the radio on. Lonestarblue Jun 2019 #23

Should have had a CO detector still_one Jun 2019 #26

Especially with an attached garage. Hassin Bin Sober Jun 2019 #31

I agree. I have two. A lot of smoke detectors come with both now still_one Jun 2019 #33

+1 Kaleva Jun 2019 #60

I'm safe. No garage and no keyless car. nt leftyladyfrommo Jun 2019 #34

Correction: "He accidentally killed himself with a car while he slept." Act_of_Reparation Jun 2019 #35

I disagree - the design of the car and its keyless system is poor hueymahl Jun 2019 #42

In what way? Act_of_Reparation Jun 2019 #44

But that doesn't happen hueymahl Jun 2019 #46

And I've never done it. Act_of_Reparation Jun 2019 #49

I guess you just feel like arguing hueymahl Jun 2019 #50

Or history has taught me to be skeptical of tech panics. Act_of_Reparation Jun 2019 #51

What is the per capita ratio of key vs fob deaths? LanternWaste Jun 2019 #65

It actually happened at a house on the same street as my inlaws. Tommy_Carcetti Jun 2019 #114

One more reason we need electric cars. tinrobot Jun 2019 #36

+1. Off-lease used electric cars are reasonably priced Rstrstx Jun 2019 #94

Not taking the basic precaution Codeine Jun 2019 #38

I have had keyless cars on business rentals . I really like them . I can't see how someone lunasun Jun 2019 #40

The car didn't kill him. He killed him. He left it running. You can do that with keys, too. Maru Kitteh Jun 2019 #43

It is not that simple hueymahl Jun 2019 #47

Not having CO and smoke detectors in the home can kill you too. Kaleva Jun 2019 #56

Since my car key and my house key are on the same fob TruckFump Jun 2019 #55

it seems like a subtle thing.... Locrian Jun 2019 #45

I will NOT have one of these keyless monsters!!!!!!!!! TruckFump Jun 2019 #53

A deaf couple in my home town died that way. Dave Starsky Jun 2019 #74

OMG! How awful! So sorry! TruckFump Jun 2019 #88

That happened a long time ago. Dave Starsky Jun 2019 #89

I check the tachometer - if it's zero, it's off. NutmegYankee Jun 2019 #93

Yep, I have had a few toy cars over my life. TruckFump Jun 2019 #98

Lack of CO detectors killed him. Every home should have them. Kaleva Jun 2019 #54

Keyless cars are the worst innovation ever Calculating Jun 2019 #57

There WAS a reason. Car theft. MicaelS Jun 2019 #106

Don't touch my remote and keyless start. SouthernProgressive Jun 2019 #58

It's prime for some improvements by mandate. NutmegYankee Jun 2019 #91

Show me a car that doesn't. SouthernProgressive Jun 2019 #97

Positive my 2019 doesn't. NutmegYankee Jun 2019 #110

Then it isn't similar to the scenario you described above. SouthernProgressive Jun 2019 #111

I'm willing to bet none. NutmegYankee Jun 2019 #112

I have a keyless car. LiberalFighter Jun 2019 #62

I recently ended up renting a Ford Flex that had MineralMan Jun 2019 #64

My keyless vehicle has a safety feature for that fescuerescue Jun 2019 #67

Banning combustion engines for cars would also prevent this Tiggeroshii Jun 2019 #70

Having a messy garage can save you! OhZone Jun 2019 #76

Our garage is a laboratory of mad scientists and artists. No room for cars there. hunter Jun 2019 #79

The keyless car didn't kill him; it was his own carelessness... Blue_Tires Jun 2019 #81

It's interesting to me to read how divided people are... Phentex Jun 2019 #84

Why have any safety features in a car? NutmegYankee Jun 2019 #92

Why have CO detectors? Kaleva Jun 2019 #96

How far are you willing to go to idiot-proof the world? Blue_Tires Jun 2019 #101

I think warning chimes are pretty reasonable. NutmegYankee Jun 2019 #109

Wow, how horrible. Catherine Vincent Jun 2019 #86

Keyed cars will soon be very rare if non-existent. MicaelS Jun 2019 #99

But airbags and seatbelts serve practical safety purposes. Tommy_Carcetti Jun 2019 #103

Purpose? MicaelS Jun 2019 #105

I could imagine things going terribly wrong with a defunct sensor in that proposed solution. Tommy_Carcetti Jun 2019 #113

I'm not a fan of them. They serve no point. Tommy_Carcetti Jun 2019 #102