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kpete

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Thu Jun 20, 2019, 08:44 AM Jun 2019

Trump Admin argues in court-they are not required to give soap or toothbrushes to detained children [View all]

The Trump admin argued in court that the government is not required to give soap or toothbrushes to children apprehended at the border and can have them sleep on concrete floors in frigid, overcrowded cells, Courthouse News reports.





SAN FRANCISCO (CN) – The Trump administration argued in front of a Ninth Circuit panel Tuesday that the government is not required to give soap or toothbrushes to children apprehended at the U.S.-Mexico border and can have them sleep on concrete floors in frigid, overcrowded cells, despite a settlement agreement that requires detainees be kept in “safe and sanitary” facilities.

All three judges appeared incredulous during the hearing in San Francisco, in which the Trump administration challenged previous legal findings that it is violating a landmark class action settlement by mistreating undocumented immigrant children at U.S. detention facilities.

“You’re really going to stand up and tell us that being able to sleep isn’t a question of safe and sanitary conditions?'” U.S. Circuit Judge Marsha Berzon asked the Justice Department’s Sarah Fabian Tuesday.

U.S. Circuit Judge William Fletcher also questioned the government’s interpretation of the settlement agreement.

“Are you arguing seriously that you do not read the agreement as requiring you to do anything other than what I just described: cold all night long, lights on all night long, sleeping on concrete and you’ve got an aluminum foil blanket?” Fletcher asked Fabian. “I find that inconceivable that the government would say that that is safe and sanitary.”


https://www.courthousenews.com/feds-tell-9th-circuit-detained-kids-safe-and-sanitary-without-soap/



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These people are fucking demons Docreed2003 Jun 2019 #1
I hear you doc TEB Jun 2019 #6
Me too TEB Docreed2003 Jun 2019 #9
This is logical after Bush sanctioned torture malaise Jun 2019 #20
Exactly Docreed2003 Jun 2019 #21
YES! a straight line from there to here. dixiegrrrrl Jun 2019 #23
This should be in every ad for 2020 malaise Jun 2019 #25
crimes against humanity Hermit-The-Prog Jun 2019 #66
The CULTURE and EDUCATION of the USA teaches greed and indifference DemocracyMouse Jun 2019 #72
Evil TEB Jun 2019 #2
Pure, unadulterated evil sop Jun 2019 #47
How Christian of them . . . Iliyah Jun 2019 #3
another manifestation vlyons Jun 2019 #4
This is cruel and inhumane. And yet, some people are offended at the comparison Arkansas Granny Jun 2019 #5
Thread winner malaise Jun 2019 #26
Chuck toady looks pretty stupid right now for his rant on this very subject asiliveandbreathe Jun 2019 #32
Cruelty on purpose. Damage the kids to deter the parents. . . . nt Bernardo de La Paz Jun 2019 #77
The government should have $ interest in soap/toothbrush companies(Lip curling sarcasm) Guilded Lilly Jun 2019 #7
Well said! orangecrush Jun 2019 #70
goddamn these 'people' spanone Jun 2019 #8
Do you know of any republican Timmygoat Jun 2019 #10
Maybe Franklin Graham could cough up some money from Samaritan's Purse to ease their suffering, Tanuki Jun 2019 #11
This travesty tears my heart out. pazzyanne Jun 2019 #12
We are putting children in concentration camps. yardwork Jun 2019 #13
Maybe things like this will wake people up to the inhumane nature MineralMan Jun 2019 #14
child abuse eShirl Jun 2019 #15
"...just following orders." ashredux Jun 2019 #16
I hope someone asks those self proclaimed child advocates Ivanka and Jackie-Ho Tanuki Jun 2019 #17
Gotta pay $100 million for golf trips? safeinOhio Jun 2019 #18
oh fuck him demtenjeep Jun 2019 #19
Regardless El Mimbreno Jun 2019 #22
K & R for exposure. SunSeeker Jun 2019 #24
In a perfect world Vegas Roller Jun 2019 #27
They would need to stand in line behind W and Cheney et al. KY_EnviroGuy Jun 2019 #78
Trumpistas have long ago jumped the shark of cruel and unusual punishment. ITMF & crew. n/t MFGsunny Jun 2019 #28
Bad, but not Nazi bad (or so I've heard here on DU) Blues Heron Jun 2019 #29
Evil, this is evil Johnny2X2X Jun 2019 #30
K & R...for visibility...nt Wounded Bear Jun 2019 #31
MATA - Make America Torture Again! Initech Jun 2019 #33
When we take back power, there must be trials. PatrickforO Jun 2019 #34
The House should initiate impeachment hearings for this atrocity alone. Mr. Evil Jun 2019 #35
Here's the argument (at around 25:00). The Justice Department is arguing that a consent decree.... mahatmakanejeeves Jun 2019 #36
This is child abuse, carried out in America, by our government. It is abhorrent. Shame, shame. Shrike47 Jun 2019 #37
May the perps rot in hell ! leanforward Jun 2019 #38
And yet, some on DU took exception a year ago MurrayDelph Jun 2019 #39
Inmates in prison Bayard Jun 2019 #40
Those monsters are treating migrant families worse than animals meow2u3 Jun 2019 #41
People right here on DU arguing that using the term concentration camp is offensive to them. cwydro Jun 2019 #42
I was an Advocate in the Federal Court in Alabama in 1971 when Raven Jun 2019 #43
Is this for real? That some everyday Americans treat their fellow human beings in this manner? ... SWBTATTReg Jun 2019 #44
History will be the final judge no matter what we call this horrendous detention separation now. gordianot Jun 2019 #45
K&R for visibility. nt tblue37 Jun 2019 #46
Republican Christian Values In Action dlk Jun 2019 #48
Why hasn't the UN stepped in? This is a fking CRIME AGAINST HUMANITY! OMGWTF Jun 2019 #49
Because of the US Govt angrychair Jun 2019 #75
So they only do what is "required". ooky Jun 2019 #50
How Christian and pro-life of them. badhair77 Jun 2019 #51
That way, they can call the kids 'dirty foreigners'. louis-t Jun 2019 #52
This is barbaric nt EleanorR Jun 2019 #53
Tough. "Pottery Barn" rule applies. NM Grins Jun 2019 #54
AOC bdamomma Jun 2019 #55
Detainees can make their own soap crazytown Jun 2019 #56
You don't provide soap and toothbrushes because LibDemAlways Jun 2019 #57
I am soooo glad the conditions of the trump/miller shitholes are getting national attention, FINALLY Leghorn21 Jun 2019 #58
and they are "pro-life" Skittles Jun 2019 #59
so I suppose the adults can do without them treestar Jun 2019 #60
Can we mail toothbrushes and toothpaste and soap? Ilsa Jun 2019 #61
The legal fees to make this argument coeur_de_lion Jun 2019 #62
Next they'll be shaving their heads because of lice. Ilsa Jun 2019 #63
Will this be on the nightly news? llmart Jun 2019 #64
The inhumanity and grotesqueries of the Trump administration. lady lib Jun 2019 #65
Completely and utterly despicable karin_sj Jun 2019 #67
And the Christian Right is Silent saljr1 Jun 2019 #68
The 'Christian Right' is complicit and loving it. C_U_L8R Jun 2019 #82
NOT NORMALIZING ATROCITY orangecrush Jun 2019 #69
Are these the detention centers that are being paid $300/night/person? fierywoman Jun 2019 #71
If there is a hell, these people have secured a special place there CentralMass Jun 2019 #73
Of course they want to make it legal Cha Jun 2019 #74
What amazed me was that Turbineguy Jun 2019 #76
If given the choice as an attorney to have to make this argument or quit my job - I would quit Pachamama Jun 2019 #80
An administration so evil they're in contempt of the devil. KY_EnviroGuy Jun 2019 #79
The whole Trump administration should be arrested. C_U_L8R Jun 2019 #81
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