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ehrnst

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17. Couldn't bring yourself to acknowledge your own use of said media for citation?
Tue Aug 20, 2019, 06:43 AM
Aug 2019

Last edited Tue Aug 20, 2019, 08:00 AM - Edit history (3)



As for the poll, I'm not fully confident of the intent and premise of the question, based on previous statements/positions that were not clear, or changed weekly, and inconsistent definitions applied to "corporate" owned media.



I feel that media conglomeration is definitely not a good thing, and my own 'countless posts' here on DU confirm that, however I don't agree with you that any media source that doesn't confirm your bias is "toeing the line of their corporate masters," nor does a publication calling itself "radical" eliminate misogyny, anti-semitism, homophobia and racism from it's editorial staff and content, any more than a media source calling itself "fair and balanced" make it so.

There are orgs on both the left and right that cater to those with the binary worldview that needs absolutes - 'black or white,' 'pure or utterly corrupt,' 'ethical or market driven,' 'manifesto or shill' - and real journalism doesn't do that. Real research doesn't do that. Real analysis doesn't do that.

There are good and bad journalists - there are good journalists who make mistakes and do bad reporting and research, and let their biases guide a piece that is not an opinion piece. Ideally a good editor steps in and catches that.

The belief that one never, ever needs to change their mind on anything, that dissent is corrupt and suspect, that bias = fact, doesn't allow one to understand what good research or journalism is.


Way WAY negative! Dennis Donovan Aug 2019 #1
Thanks for the addition Dennis Donovan Uncle Joe Aug 2019 #6
Media conglomeration is, IMO, the most dangerous aspect of the 1996 Telecom act... Dennis Donovan Aug 2019 #7
I hate it but I must agree with you David. Uncle Joe Aug 2019 #8
I think the real danger is bias confirming niche media, mainly on the internet, lapucelle Aug 2019 #2
Corporations Exist to Make Profits for Shareholders dlk Aug 2019 #3
We have seen this before... TreasonousBastard Aug 2019 #4
Precisely TreasonousBastard, but some would argue corporate ownership makes no difference Uncle Joe Aug 2019 #9
Yes, I've seen that argument before as well. Very recently, in fact. ehrnst Aug 2019 #19
Well at least you included the title of my post this time Uncle Joe Aug 2019 #20
Even more strawmen, in addition to the three fallacies from the original thread... ehrnst Aug 2019 #26
Your "fallacies," "strawmen," attempts at personalizing this and transparent evasion at answering Uncle Joe Aug 2019 #31
No, they're the usual fallacies. ehrnst Aug 2019 #34
We can do this all day if you wish, Uncle Joe Aug 2019 #36
Is that the story now... ehrnst Aug 2019 #37
Thanks again. Uncle Joe Aug 2019 #40
You're very welcome again! ehrnst Aug 2019 #41
Consolidation of almost anything is a negative. Caliman73 Aug 2019 #5
I agree Caliman. Uncle Joe Aug 2019 #10
Just terrible! ehrnst Aug 2019 #11
Couldn't bring yourself to vote eh? Uncle Joe Aug 2019 #14
Couldn't bring yourself to acknowledge your own use of said media for citation? ehrnst Aug 2019 #17
Got false equivalency? Uncle Joe Aug 2019 #22
Nope. You run out? ehrnst Aug 2019 #23
Where once we had thousands of points of view... Kid Berwyn Aug 2019 #12
Yes he did. Uncle Joe Aug 2019 #13
Corporate media didn't make your neighbors racist shitheads n/t mathematic Aug 2019 #15
Really? Uncle Joe Aug 2019 #16
Quoting a FoxNews host to make your point. ehrnst Aug 2019 #18
No one is born a racist, they are shaped by their culture Uncle Joe Aug 2019 #21
Got a strawman? ehrnst Aug 2019 #24
So you believe FOX "News" hasn't worked to spread racism? Uncle Joe Aug 2019 #25
Yet another strawman. You find a sale? ehrnst Aug 2019 #27
Logic dictates either you believe FOX "News" has worked to spread racism or it hasn't. Uncle Joe Aug 2019 #29
So you agree that's not what the person you replied to said. ehrnst Aug 2019 #30
I agree that holding a debate with anyone unwilling to actually answer fundamental questions Uncle Joe Aug 2019 #32
And we have the fold, and push back from the table. ehrnst Aug 2019 #33
Thanks for that, sorry I can't say the same. Uncle Joe Aug 2019 #35
Clearly not quickly or thoroughly enough. ehrnst Aug 2019 #38
Thanks again. Uncle Joe Aug 2019 #39
You're welcome again! ehrnst Aug 2019 #42
i don't believe in a corporate media conglomeration ... stonecutter357 Aug 2019 #28
Who Owns the Media? Uncle Joe Aug 2019 #43
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