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JHB

(37,943 posts)
18. And what is the plan to move public opinion?
Tue Aug 27, 2019, 02:11 PM
Aug 2019

The Republicans know how to do this; it's why they hold endless hearings and re-re-re-re-investigate every flyblown "scandal" of Democratic pols and administrations. They drive public opinion by throwing turdballs and even if none of them stick they point at the foul mess at the Democrat's feet and then at the fogbank of steam rising from it and intone "where there's smoke there's fire".

The accusations against Trump aren't turdballs, they're the real thing. They'll stick, they just have to be out where people can see them and can't escape them. Every. Single. Day. Drive the news cycle.

I'm willing to delay my chomping at the bit by hoping that Pelosi is taking a cynical page from the Bush playbook: "Never launch a new product in August", but we're running out of August. Public hearings have to start soon, because this will take months. It has to become an issue for the election, getting the Republicans to pay a price if they keep stonewalling.

If the plan is just to "wait for the election and vote him out", then it doesn't confront the Republicans and lets them paint everything as "just playing politics". The "there" the public will be at is "the Democrats won't fight."

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Probably not, but at least Senator Susan Collins would express deep concern Elwood P Dowd Aug 2019 #1
I'm sure the Senate WOULD NOT! BUT bluestarone Aug 2019 #2
the speaker does not support impeachment and i don't see that changing. Kurt V. Aug 2019 #3
The key is the voting public. Seems like it would be trump's Pearl Harbor. Huge turning point. empedocles Aug 2019 #4
Would you have the Speaker call for a vote if it was going to be defeated? onenote Aug 2019 #5
Absolutely - the House has a duty, despite the corruption of the Senate... polichick Aug 2019 #12
So you think that having the House vote on and defeat an impeachment resolution onenote Aug 2019 #28
Upholding the law and their oaths of office would be the RIGHT thing... polichick Aug 2019 #31
Holding a vote and then losing it would be a far worse precedent. onenote Aug 2019 #35
Lol, excellent question. cwydro Aug 2019 #6
Impeaching Trump for shooting someone would violate his Second Amendment rights. LastLiberal in PalmSprings Aug 2019 #7
The state of New York could bring criminal charges against trump Gothmog Aug 2019 #8
The public would be demanding it enough that she would treestar Aug 2019 #9
any day we're going to hear.....'well, it's just too late now' spanone Aug 2019 #10
If that happens, voters will have another reason to distrust establishment Dems. polichick Aug 2019 #13
+1 uponit7771 Aug 2019 #16
holding a vote on impeachment right now isn't going to bring justice JI7 Aug 2019 #11
What actually would happen if he did that. After Mueller, it's really hard to say. Would he Xtermin8 H8 Aug 2019 #14
No, she probably wouldn't Bettie Aug 2019 #15
We spent two years analyzing every Mueller move and now it seems like a forgotten dream. I think jalan48 Aug 2019 #17
And what is the plan to move public opinion? JHB Aug 2019 #18
As the heckler mentioned, Pelosi was celebrated for clapping at Trump... polichick Aug 2019 #20
What do you mean if?... lame54 Aug 2019 #19
If she isn't in support of impeaching Trump with over half of Democrats standingtall Aug 2019 #21
It isn't a question of whether she supports it, it is whether there are enough votes for it to pass onenote Aug 2019 #26
Her public support for impeachment and calling for a vote on it are two different things standingtall Aug 2019 #32
Maybe. Maybe not. onenote Aug 2019 #34
How will Impeaching Trump "lead us out of this existential mess"? brooklynite Aug 2019 #22
Why do you always have to be the voice of reason? n/t zackymilly Aug 2019 #23
By her lack of action Speaker Pelosi is normalizing a criminal administration... polichick Aug 2019 #24
Whose idea was it to "leave the Supreme Court to the last election"? onenote Aug 2019 #27
Voters who felt it was important to protest Moscow Mitch's stealing... polichick Aug 2019 #37
Link? onenote Aug 2019 #39
The last election Falcata Aug 2019 #36
Sorry, I meant the last pres. election. Will edit. polichick Aug 2019 #38
How does letting Trump get off scot-free lead us out of this mess? standingtall Aug 2019 #25
Thank you for sewing discord in the ranks of Democrats Stinky The Clown Aug 2019 #29
Some Democratic voters still put country and justice over the game of politics. polichick Aug 2019 #33
Impeachment is by definition political. Lots of pomp and ceremony around it, but still, at its core Stinky The Clown Aug 2019 #40
It depends. Which block? NT mahatmakanejeeves Aug 2019 #30
The Speaker is Democratic (meaning "of integrity") and yes *would* do the correct thing. UTUSN Aug 2019 #41
Good god. She is selling him rope by the yard and he keeps buying! GulfCoast66 Aug 2019 #42
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