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qazplm135

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141. incrementally?

Wed Sep 18, 2019, 10:55 PM

Sep 2019

It's a pretty significant jump...an entire generation in fact, of which there are only, currently two verified members the F-35 and the F-22. From avionics to electronics to target acquisition to stealth.

Now is it a single step from F-18 to F-35 to whatever this is? No.

No it's not Moore's Law, but that doesn't mean science takes tiny discrete "incremental" improvements in all ways all of the time.

Leaps happen. Stalls happen.

A leap could have happened to produce a craft that is significantly faster and more agile.

This is particularly not all that surprising now that we have advanced drone and AI capability. All the things we worry about to keep the pilot alive or to conform to a human pilots, well, piloting ability, we don't have to worry about with an advanced drone, particularly if it's paired with advanced AI.

I just find it amazing...aliens traveling vast distances to meet us...you're open to it. Humans creating these craft, that's crazy talk to you.

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