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17. Ron Wyden (D) Oregon

Mon Feb 3, 2020, 04:06 PM

Feb 2020

6, 7

Pres. defense is fiction because the pres. was not fighting corruption in Ukraine. He was causing it. Only reason funds were released because they got caught, not because they suddenly found a new respect for the people of Ukraine.

Let's consider the precedent that just getting over it sets. an acquital says it's OK for foreign interference in all elections or policy AND that it's OK to rig impeachment trials. Rig an election when there are no consequences.

Two simple questions: Pres. swears to protect and defend the Constitution. When he puts his own interest first and extorts a foreign govt for political gain, he's in violation of his oath.

Do we believe that this is a govt of the people, by the people, for the people. The Pres. defense assured us that it is not. If the Pres can cheat lie and commit crimes in office, it is a govt of by and for Donald Trump.

We have no choice. He is guilty. He must be convicted.

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HELP US RECORD IT: Valor vs. Treachery on the Senate Floor [View all] LAS14 Feb 2020 OP

I'm in! Mersky Feb 2020 #1

Sen Martin Heinrich (D-NM) spoke first - link added Mersky Feb 2020 #2

grassley Kali Feb 2020 #3

Hi, Kali. Wanna chose a video to watch and write-up a summary/code for a senator or two? Mersky Feb 2020 #97

OK I will try. Gotta run to the store, but will be back in an hour or so. Kali Feb 2020 #98

It's cool. As you can. Mersky Feb 2020 #99

chuck grassley (R-IA) - link to his 15+ minute speechifying Mersky Feb 2020 #4

Here's a CSPAN link Mersky Feb 2020 #5

I'm watching on the Washington Post website if that helps. SamKnause Feb 2020 #7

Thanks, I pulled it up Mersky Feb 2020 #20

Disagree with Grassley. SamKnause Feb 2020 #6

Grassley is lying his ass off. SamKnause Feb 2020 #8

Grassley (R) Iowa says the House failed to prove the case woodsprite Feb 2020 #9

Could you explain how he was a 5? Did he admit Trump was wrong? I didn't hear it. nt LAS14 Feb 2020 #11

I'd have to go back and listen to him again woodsprite Feb 2020 #19

OK. I'll remove the 5. Makes sense. nt LAS14 Feb 2020 #25

The Whole "Where's the Whistleblower" Nonsense Pisses Me Off to No End. The_Counsel Feb 2020 #14

911 call takers are actually required to ask for the name and number lunatica Feb 2020 #87

Couldn't a Mobile Phone Be Located Via GPS? The_Counsel Feb 2020 #91

Updates take time to implement but lunatica Feb 2020 #93

Sen. Patty Murray (D-WA) currently up - VIDEO added Mersky Feb 2020 #10

Patty Murray (D) Washington woodsprite Feb 2020 #12

To thse watching bdamomma Feb 2020 #13

Debbie Stabenow (D) Michigan woodsprite Feb 2020 #15

Sen Ron Wyden (D-OR) Mersky Feb 2020 #16

Ron Wyden (D) Oregon woodsprite Feb 2020 #17

What is the delay ??? SamKnause Feb 2020 #18

There was an absence of a quorum when Schiff ended. woodsprite Feb 2020 #21

or maybe they don't want to go on record for their made-up reasons for voting aquittal Kali Feb 2020 #22

Here's the CSPAN link I've been waiting for Mersky Feb 2020 #23

Is there a trick? Thanks so much for this link. I was going to look at the three... LAS14 Feb 2020 #69

Joe Manchin (D-WV) is up and now talking censure Mersky Feb 2020 #24

Apparently, Manchin Is STILL Undecided. Surprise! The_Counsel Feb 2020 #26

WaPo picked up on the "censure" utterance - I mainly focussed on his continued equivocating BumRushDaShow Feb 2020 #30

Manchin continued Mersky Feb 2020 #27

Manchin (D) West Virginia woodsprite Feb 2020 #28

And what, for goodness sakes, will be enough for him to decide????? Just grandstanding. nt LAS14 Feb 2020 #32

Sen. marsha blackburn (R-TN) Mersky Feb 2020 #29

Marsha Blackburn (R) Tennessee woodsprite Feb 2020 #31

I'm changing Blackburn to a 9. LAS14 Feb 2020 #72

I think that much more fascinating to tabulate would be the REAL reasons, not the stated reasons, royable Feb 2020 #33

I Suppose We Can Also Add 7 and 8 The_Counsel Feb 2020 #35

Neat idea. I'm gonna go through the names Mersky Feb 2020 #37

Maria Cantwell (D-WA) Mersky Feb 2020 #34

Maria Cantwell (D) Washington woodsprite Feb 2020 #36

Hi, Woodsprite, thanks for these summaries! Mersky Feb 2020 #82

Sen. Brian Schatz (D-HI) Mersky Feb 2020 #38

james inhofe (R-OK) Mersky Feb 2020 #39

Sen Ben Cardin (D-MD) Mersky Feb 2020 #40

kelly loeffler (R-GA) seems to be introducing herself to the senate for the first time Mersky Feb 2020 #41

Would a 2 be appropriate? nt LAS14 Feb 2020 #44

Not really. Closest is probably a 4. Mersky Feb 2020 #45

Sen Tom Udall (D-UT) Mersky Feb 2020 #42

Sen Kirsten Gillibrand (D-NY) Mersky Feb 2020 #43

Turtle just came out and said there were 2 more to speak and then they will adjourn until 9:30am ET. BumRushDaShow Feb 2020 #46

Thank you for saving me from constant channel switching!! nt LAS14 Feb 2020 #47

You are welcome - Murkowski just showed up and is speaking now. BumRushDaShow Feb 2020 #48

Looks like Catherine Cortez Masto decided NOT to speak. SENATE IS NOW ADJOURNED until 9:30am ET Tues BumRushDaShow Feb 2020 #49

Murkowski - 2 LAS14 Feb 2020 #50

I added a category 8. I really hope no one falls into this group!!!! LAS14 Feb 2020 #51

Benediction was pretty good Mersky Feb 2020 #52

Where are you getting this? I'm getting 2 CSPAN channels, both turned to House of Reps. Also, LAS14 Feb 2020 #65

Here's the link Mersky Feb 2020 #67

Thanks! Stupid Xfinity. Yesterday when I searched for CSPAN I got a half dozen channels. LAS14 Feb 2020 #68

Moscow Mitch (R-KY) spoke first this morning for 15 minutes - Clip added Mersky Feb 2020 #53

Sen. Chuck Schumer (D-NY) offers a rebuttal to Moscow Mitch's lengthy and misleading excuses Mersky Feb 2020 #54

john thune (R-SD) - link added Mersky Feb 2020 #55

did this get a score? Kali Feb 2020 #185

I am going to give this one a 1 & 9 BumRushDaShow Feb 2020 #230

I read his statement because I overlooked your score here and... LAS14 Feb 2020 #249

Right near the beginning he wrote this -- BumRushDaShow Feb 2020 #250

ok LAS14 Feb 2020 #251

Much of what Thune said (as written) BumRushDaShow Feb 2020 #252

bill cassidy (R-LA) - link added Mersky Feb 2020 #56

Cassidy - 3 and 9 LAS14 Feb 2020 #95

joni ernst (R-IA) - link added Mersky Feb 2020 #57

Ernst - 1 BumRushDaShow Feb 2020 #228

roger wicker (R-MS) Mersky Feb 2020 #58

Wicker - 9, category "10" BumRushDaShow Feb 2020 #236

Sen. Richard Blumenthal (D-CT) Mersky Feb 2020 #59

Sen. Chris Van Hollen (D-MD) Mersky Feb 2020 #60

Sen. Gary Peters (D-MI) Mersky Feb 2020 #61

Sen. Sheldon Whitehouse (D-RI) Mersky Feb 2020 #62

Sen. Tina Smith (D-MN) Mersky Feb 2020 #63

This one is Tina Smith (D-MN) BumRushDaShow Feb 2020 #231

D'oh! Will fix it. Mersky Feb 2020 #232

You are welcome BumRushDaShow Feb 2020 #235

I've added a 9th category, and modified #4. LAS14 Feb 2020 #64

Sigh, rand paul (R-KY) Mersky Feb 2020 #66

I would consider him category "10" BumRushDaShow Feb 2020 #239

deb fischer (R-NE) Mersky Feb 2020 #70

I would rate Fischer - 9 BumRushDaShow Feb 2020 #233

Thank for following up with these. Mersky Feb 2020 #234

F shelley moore capito (R-WV) Mersky Feb 2020 #71

pat roberts (R-KS) - posting time of this speech is now current Mersky Feb 2020 #73

Changing Grassley from a 4 to a 9. nt LAS14 Feb 2020 #74

john hoeven (R-ND) Mersky Feb 2020 #75

Would put Hoeven as 1, 9 BumRushDaShow Feb 2020 #237

Sen Bob Menendez (D-NJ) - happening live now Mersky Feb 2020 #76

6 and 7 LAS14 Feb 2020 #79

Sen. Edward Markey (D-MA) - Live as of this posting Mersky Feb 2020 #77

He's not done yet, but I think I'm safing giving him a 6 and 7!!! nt LAS14 Feb 2020 #78

Please also report statements in the news, from those senators... LAS14 Feb 2020 #80

Sen. Tom Carper (D-DE) speaking live now Mersky Feb 2020 #81

Sen. Tim Kaine (D-VA) Mersky Feb 2020 #83

ted cruz (R-TX) Mersky Feb 2020 #84

Cruz - 3, category "10" BumRushDaShow Feb 2020 #242

john kennedy (R-LA) Mersky Feb 2020 #85

david perdue (R-GA) Mersky Feb 2020 #86

Perdue 9 LAS14 Feb 2020 #101

Hey, might need to start a new thread soon-ish? Mersky Feb 2020 #102

Then we'd lose our place at Greatest Threads. And we'd lose our "active" flicker. LAS14 Feb 2020 #117

Okay, we'll just keep on going. Mersky Feb 2020 #119

Mike Rounds (R) South Dakota woodsprite Feb 2020 #88

steve daines (R-MT) - linked to clip Mersky Feb 2020 #89

Daines would be a category "10" BumRushDaShow Feb 2020 #241

mike rounds (R-SD) - link included Mersky Feb 2020 #90

Sen. Jeanne Shaheen (D-NH) - link included Mersky Feb 2020 #92

Jeanne Shaheen (D) New Hampshire woodsprite Feb 2020 #94

Sen. Diane Feinstein (D-CA) - happening now Mersky Feb 2020 #96

Sen. Mark Warner (D-VA) speaking live now Mersky Feb 2020 #100

Sen. Jon Tester (D-MT) is speaking live now Mersky Feb 2020 #103

susan collins (R-ME) is UP NOW Mersky Feb 2020 #104

And now the Susan Collins BumRushDaShow Feb 2020 #105

Misplacing her concern all over the floor Mersky Feb 2020 #106

At least she is admitting he did something wrong BumRushDaShow Feb 2020 #107

True, but alas, won't sway her votes to acquit Mersky Feb 2020 #109

Of course. I still think she is toast. BumRushDaShow Feb 2020 #110

Oh, yeah, I think she's done. Mersky Feb 2020 #111

And now Cory Booker BumRushDaShow Feb 2020 #108

Sen. Cory Booker (D-NJ) - link to live coverage - IS A MUST WATCH Mersky Feb 2020 #112

He tore it up! BumRushDaShow Feb 2020 #113

Yes, he DID! Mersky Feb 2020 #116

watching this now Kali Feb 2020 #129

Rob Portman (R-OH) - 1 & 4 BumRushDaShow Feb 2020 #114

What scores would you give Portman? (See OP) LAS14 Feb 2020 #121

Just updated my post! BumRushDaShow Feb 2020 #122

Thanks! LAS14 Feb 2020 #126

rob portman (R-OH) Mersky Feb 2020 #115

My Senator - Bob Casey (D-PA) BumRushDaShow Feb 2020 #118

Sen. Bob Casey (D-PA) - link to clip added Mersky Feb 2020 #120

Turtle is adjourning until 8:25 pm so they can gather to go to the House side for the SOTU BumRushDaShow Feb 2020 #123

john boozman (R-AR) Mersky Feb 2020 #124

Boozman - 1, 4 BumRushDaShow Feb 2020 #238

james lankford (R-OK) Mersky Feb 2020 #125

Lankford would be a category "10" BumRushDaShow Feb 2020 #240

Sen. Angus King (I-ME) - clip included; was the last to speak before turtle called for adjourning Mersky Feb 2020 #127

did I time this right? Kali Feb 2020 #128

Pick one of the posts with a link to a senator but no score yet. Then give us the score. nt LAS14 Feb 2020 #131

ok, may try after the vomit of the union show Kali Feb 2020 #134

Lol, impeccable timing you have Mersky Feb 2020 #133

ok maybe after the impeached gets finished bloviating Kali Feb 2020 #135

Not sure, really Mersky Feb 2020 #136

You can make a spreadsheet on Google sheets so we can all see it. You can lock it or let people edit NCLefty Feb 2020 #130

Can I copy an Excel sheet into a Google sheet? I'm afraid I'm totally... LAS14 Feb 2020 #132

***IN SESSION - BENEDICTION*** BumRushDaShow Feb 2020 #137

Jeff Merkley (D-OR) first up. BumRushDaShow Feb 2020 #138

VIDEO of his speech Mersky Feb 2020 #161

Chuck Schumer (D-NY) - said he'll give his statement @ 3:30pm ET but is talking about the SOTU mess BumRushDaShow Feb 2020 #139

VIDEO - is a very good pulling apart of the worst sotu ever Mersky Feb 2020 #165

John Cornyn (R-TX) - 3, 9, category "10" BumRushDaShow Feb 2020 #140

Josh Hawley (R-MO) - 9 BumRushDaShow Feb 2020 #141

Lamar Alexander (R-TN) - 1 BumRushDaShow Feb 2020 #142

Ben Sasse (R-NE) - unanimous consent to enter his editorial in Omaha paper into the record - 2, 5 BumRushDaShow Feb 2020 #143

Kamala Harris (D-CA) BumRushDaShow Feb 2020 #144

VIDEO - Here's the link to her speech Mersky Feb 2020 #158

Maggie Hassan (D-NH) BumRushDaShow Feb 2020 #145

VIDEO of Sen. Hassan speaking Mersky Feb 2020 #168

Doug Jones (D-AL) - ETA will vote to CONVICT on both Articles. BumRushDaShow Feb 2020 #146

I am now all ears. Mersky Feb 2020 #147

I read that he planned to vote to convict. BumRushDaShow Feb 2020 #148

If so Mersky Feb 2020 #149

His initial story referenced his WW2 father who he said BumRushDaShow Feb 2020 #150

Doug is sitting at JFK desk! True Blue American Feb 2020 #151

Is a beautiful moment Mersky Feb 2020 #152

MUST WATCH: Doug Jones valiantly defends voting to convict Mersky Feb 2020 #157

Jack Reed (D-RI) BumRushDaShow Feb 2020 #153

Sen. Jack Reed (D-RI) - link to VIDEO added Mersky Feb 2020 #154

LOL BumRushDaShow Feb 2020 #156

Tammy Duckworth (D-IL) BumRushDaShow Feb 2020 #155

VIDEO of the Senator from Illinois speaking for conviction Mersky Feb 2020 #199

Unless I see something to the contrary, or hear something to the contrary, I'm going to give all... LAS14 Feb 2020 #159

We'll have to see what Manchin and Sinema say BumRushDaShow Feb 2020 #160

Mike Lee (R-UT) - 3, 8 BumRushDaShow Feb 2020 #162

mike lee (R-UT) Mersky Feb 2020 #163

Kevin Cramer (R-ND) - category "10" BumRushDaShow Feb 2020 #164

Cindy Hyde-Smith (R-MS) - category "10" BumRushDaShow Feb 2020 #166

Jim Risch (R-ID) - 9 BumRushDaShow Feb 2020 #167

Sherrod Brown (D-OH) BumRushDaShow Feb 2020 #169

"Your name will be tied to his with a cord of steel" Mersky Feb 2020 #172

Sen. Sherrod Brown (D-OH) is bringing it! - WATCH THIS VIDEO Mersky Feb 2020 #170

And he pointed to the door to the hall towards Turtle's office too BumRushDaShow Feb 2020 #173

"... dictator of the senate manipulating the impeachment process to save the demagogue in the WH..." Mersky Feb 2020 #178

Thank you! BumRushDaShow Feb 2020 #179

Also Romney just said he will vote to CONVICT BumRushDaShow Feb 2020 #180

Mazie Hirono (D-HI) BumRushDaShow Feb 2020 #171

VIDEO of her speech Mersky Feb 2020 #205

Michael Bennet (D-CO) BumRushDaShow Feb 2020 #174

VIDEO link to his speech Mersky Feb 2020 #208

Tammy Baldwin (D-WI) BumRushDaShow Feb 2020 #175

Chris Murphy (D-CT) BumRushDaShow Feb 2020 #176

Mitt Romney (R-UT) - Will vote to convict Article 1 (not sure of Article 2?) - 6, 7 (?) BumRushDaShow Feb 2020 #177

Has a half or *maybe* complete spine Mersky Feb 2020 #181

His was a shot heard around the world BumRushDaShow Feb 2020 #183

Oh, yeah. I could feel it whooshing by, too Mersky Feb 2020 #184

... BumRushDaShow Feb 2020 #186

Voooophff!... What was that? Sounded like Mitt Romney?!! Mersky Feb 2020 #187

VIDEO of the Romney in action Mersky Feb 2020 #189

Tim Scott (R-SC) - 3, 9, category "10" BumRushDaShow Feb 2020 #182

Chris Coons (D-DE) BumRushDaShow Feb 2020 #188

Cory Gardner (R-CO) - 9 BumRushDaShow Feb 2020 #190

This message was self-deleted by its author backtoblue Feb 2020 #191

Sounds like he doesn't want to be re-elected Mersky Feb 2020 #193

Ya think? All RW loon talking points BumRushDaShow Feb 2020 #197

???? Are there others besides Collins that think Trump has learned his lesson????? LAS14 Feb 2020 #192

Need a new category that the entire "impeachment inquiry" was completely "partisan" BumRushDaShow Feb 2020 #194

I think that comes under "flawed." Right? LAS14 Feb 2020 #196

Category "9" wasn't enough for some of them BumRushDaShow Feb 2020 #198

OK. If you'll review all the category 9's, I can make a new category. LAS14 Feb 2020 #203

Patrick Leahy (D-VT) BumRushDaShow Feb 2020 #195

Ooooo. He mentioned seeing the chairman of the Appropriations Committee seated in the chamber Mersky Feb 2020 #202

Sen. Patrick Leahy (D-VT) Mersky Feb 2020 #200

Richard Shelby (R-AL) - 1, 9 (sortof for Article 2) BumRushDaShow Feb 2020 #201

Dick Durbin (D-IL) BumRushDaShow Feb 2020 #204

VIDEO link to the Assistant Minority Leader Dick Durbin speaking Mersky Feb 2020 #213

Lindsey Graham (R-SC) - category "10" BumRushDaShow Feb 2020 #206

hey! Kali Feb 2020 #207

His mic was messing up so much BumRushDaShow Feb 2020 #214

He is a disgrace of a so-called senator. Mersky Feb 2020 #210

Chuck Schumer (D-NY) BumRushDaShow Feb 2020 #209

LIVE link to CSPAN Mersky Feb 2020 #211

Turtle (Mitch McConnell R-KY) - Category "10" BumRushDaShow Feb 2020 #212

Moscow Mitch does not have a 'soul' power Mersky Feb 2020 #215

Yup BumRushDaShow Feb 2020 #218

Do you want to start a live thread for this? Mersky Feb 2020 #216

***SENATE IN RECESS SUBJECT TO CALL OF CHAIR*** BumRushDaShow Feb 2020 #217

Kristen Sinema (D-AZ) and Joe Manchin (D-WV) will vote FOR both Articles BumRushDaShow Feb 2020 #219

****BACK IN SESSION**** BumRushDaShow Feb 2020 #220

The charges are being read. Mersky Feb 2020 #221

Article I Mersky Feb 2020 #222

Article I - third point Mersky Feb 2020 #223

Thanks for the thread, LAS14 and to all who are contributing. crickets Feb 2020 #224

Here's the vote on Article I Mersky Feb 2020 #225

I created a thread so this one wouldn't be cluttered BumRushDaShow Feb 2020 #226

Thank you for this Generic Other Feb 2020 #227

Hi, y'all. Mersky Feb 2020 #229

I think I captured everything not captured for (R)s and am petitioning for a category "10" BumRushDaShow Feb 2020 #243

I have to do some emergency programming for an application I've written for my son..... LAS14 Feb 2020 #244

I don't have scores for these Republicans. Do you want to spend some more... LAS14 Feb 2020 #245

Just as a note - not all of them gave "oral" remarks (wasn't required) BumRushDaShow Feb 2020 #246

I will need tomorrow to finish up my various clips and entries Mersky Feb 2020 #247

Note that BumRush found two that I'd overlooked. I've added them. LAS14 Feb 2020 #248

Here's the post with the results. LAS14 Feb 2020 #253