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OnDoutside

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7. Because I am European, live in Europe and have grown up watching the evolution of hard line

Sat Feb 29, 2020, 07:22 PM

Feb 2020

Socialists since the fall of the Berlin Wall, from old style far left reactionary politics to putting on this softer, slicker public face (especially since the 2008 crash), using social media the same way Putin does. But their core values have remained unchanged.

As for his supporters, those who are interested in defeating Trump, will vote Dem, those who voted against Hillary in 2016 (even voting for Trump and Stein) will do so, but the bigger "get" in 2020 are the moderate Republicans disgusted with Trump/GOP and Independents who will also come over. They're the bigger group, who DO vote.

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Social Democracy [View all] Progressive2020 Feb 2020 OP

European-Style Democracy Shermann Feb 2020 #1

There's a major difference between Social Democrats and Democratic Socialists, within Europe. OnDoutside Feb 2020 #4

Yes Progressive2020 Feb 2020 #6

Democratic Socialism is Bernie's little in-joke, it's Socialism, most likely of a Trotskyist nature. OnDoutside Feb 2020 #2

What basis do you have for saying that? mjvpi Feb 2020 #5

Because I am European, live in Europe and have grown up watching the evolution of hard line OnDoutside Feb 2020 #7

Yeah Progressive2020 Mar 2020 #19

In US terms, definitely he is a hard line socialist, as the GOP will paint from wall to wall. OnDoutside Mar 2020 #27

Thank you. mjvpi Feb 2020 #3

Reagan Revolution Progressive2020 Feb 2020 #8

My party in the guise of moving to the middle has helped the right take over. mjvpi Mar 2020 #15

I Agree Progressive2020 Mar 2020 #25

Society Security is NOT the slightest bit socialist and to say so Hortensis Feb 2020 #9

Definitions Progressive2020 Feb 2020 #10

Trump defines Democrats as a wacko unhinged mob. Hortensis Feb 2020 #11

I Disagree Progressive2020 Feb 2020 #13

Insistence on following a leader who lies Hortensis Feb 2020 #14

Definitions Again Progressive2020 Mar 2020 #17

Nonsense. Seriously. Some definitions are truth, some are lies Hortensis Mar 2020 #18

I Disagree Progressive2020 Mar 2020 #20

Trump and the massively corrupt Republicans disagree also. Hortensis Mar 2020 #21

It Is A False Equivalency Progressive2020 Mar 2020 #22

Well, aside from the others who swallow without checking Hortensis Mar 2020 #23

Maybe Progressive2020 Mar 2020 #26

Face it. It's Sanders' fault that he calls himself a democratic socialist instead... brush Feb 2020 #12

They took money out of my paycheck EndlessWire Mar 2020 #16

Social Democracy Progressive2020 Mar 2020 #24