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Are Ventilators Mostly Useless? [View all] DanieRains Apr 2020 OP

Alternative? gibraltar72 Apr 2020 #1

more ventilators, hospital beds, and medical staff....... getagrip_already Apr 2020 #4

and slow and insufficient testing. gibraltar72 Apr 2020 #12

Are you kidding? Really?! we can do it Apr 2020 #2

No-it is a legitimate question Blueplanet Apr 2020 #42

Way less than half that who get CPR survive, but we still do it. we can do it Apr 2020 #55

LOL. "Mostly useless?" Next it will be "Why bother?" PSPS Apr 2020 #3

No. My wife is a respiratory therapist and just saved the life of a Covid patient with one. ElementaryPenguin Apr 2020 #5

That has got to feel great! redwitch Apr 2020 #9

❤️Love it!❤️ we can do it Apr 2020 #56

Useless? Ask David Lat Tanuki Apr 2020 #6

Why do some people survive cancer & some don't? William769 Apr 2020 #7

Ventilators help provide more oxygen Ilsa Apr 2020 #8

+1 we can do it Apr 2020 #57

I you get COVID-19... SidDithers Apr 2020 #10

Exactly. Thanks, Sid uppityperson Apr 2020 #14

Ventilators are usually lifesavers peggysue2 Apr 2020 #11

Thank you peggysue uppityperson Apr 2020 #16

Most welcome! peggysue2 Apr 2020 #18

This message was self-deleted by its author elocs Apr 2020 #49

That's certainly the case with Covid-19 peggysue2 Apr 2020 #54

ECMO is the answer Azathoth Apr 2020 #13

That machine snowybirdie Apr 2020 #27

Which? ECMO or ventilator? Azathoth Apr 2020 #28

ECMO snowybirdie Apr 2020 #29

Oh. Yes, it's an amazing piece of technology Azathoth Apr 2020 #31

ECMO is NOT the answer Runningdawg Apr 2020 #34

Jesus you didn't even read my post Azathoth Apr 2020 #44

I don't know much about it, but my grandson had snowybirdie Apr 2020 #53

My son was saved by ECMO when he was a newborn... blitzen Apr 2020 #47

Like dialysis. we can do it Apr 2020 #58

Yes, there's a growing number of doctors who agree this is an oxygen problem Arazi Apr 2020 #51

Yes. And this young ER doctor is not alone in thinking exactly this peggysue2 Apr 2020 #62

They aren't useless at all, BUT as Cuomo has said so many times, if you go on one with COVID-19, 80% Celerity Apr 2020 #15

From what I have heard anecdotally is if you go on a ventilator with CV19 HarlanPepper Apr 2020 #17

"If you go on a ventilator, there is about a 20 percent chance that you will survive," Celerity Apr 2020 #20

A lot depends on the health of the patient. A 56yo Hortensis Apr 2020 #21

yes, of course the 80% death rate is a total for all cohorts, thanks Celerity Apr 2020 #50

My husband's heading for 80, but I read something like 85% Hortensis Apr 2020 #59

I so hope both of you stay safe! Celerity Apr 2020 #60

You and yours also, Celerity. Hortensis Apr 2020 #61

My sister works on a vent ward. JenniferJuniper Apr 2020 #19

Thanks For The Comments My Point Is A Vent Is Probably Not Going To Save You DanieRains Apr 2020 #22

A vent will save you 20-25% of the time... SidDithers Apr 2020 #24

I appreciate the study they are doing at Rush University Hospital of Chicago: mucifer Apr 2020 #30

Why? What purpose would it serve? GemDigger Apr 2020 #32

But 25% don't. And those are actual living human beings. Iggo Apr 2020 #40

That's...not how ventilators work ismnotwasm Apr 2020 #23

Even if they save a small percent of the people on them, I would still want my loved one on it Marrah_Goodman Apr 2020 #25

Depends ethically speaking with overcrowded hospitals and no visitors understaffing mucifer Apr 2020 #33

i think i'm willing to trust the judgement of medical professionals without needing a media Takket Apr 2020 #26

I heard 50 50 so it is worth it. Demsrule86 Apr 2020 #35

Useless? To whom? For what? Are you insane? It's right there in the name what they're useful for. Iggo Apr 2020 #36

I hear you DanieRains Blueplanet Apr 2020 #37

Shootin' for a hundred, are we? Iggo Apr 2020 #38

We Need Enough Vents To Treat All Who Need Them DanieRains Apr 2020 #43

So they're not useless, then. There ya go! (n/t) Iggo Apr 2020 #48

That's what I am reading. LaurenOlimina Apr 2020 #39

By the time I had finished nursing school, I understood fully there were things worse than dying. Runningdawg Apr 2020 #41

If they save one out of twenty people Chainfire Apr 2020 #45

Umm yes they make a big difference. fescuerescue Apr 2020 #46

Wonder how many people put on ventilators DeminPennswoods Apr 2020 #52