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Laelth

(32,017 posts)
Thu Apr 23, 2020, 12:42 PM Apr 2020

What happens if our leaders "open up" the economy and nobody comes? [View all]

At present, the only Republican plan that I can discern to address the economic fallout from the Coronavirus is to “open up” the economy—whatever that means. They blame our current economic misery on various states and municipalities that have enacted stay-at-home orders. This approach is foolish, at best.

We can eliminate state and locally mandated stay-at-home orders all we want, and it won’t change a thing. Most Americans are sane and don’t want to die. Business owners are already saying thanks, but no thanks, to Republican suggestions that they reopen. Why? It’s because they’re not stupid, and they know that it would be a losing proposition for them to reopen without enough patrons to support the cost of running their businesses. They could care less whether stay-at-home orders are in place. Eliminate them all, and nothing will change. For the foreseeable future, most Americans are staying home, like it or not.

The results look pretty catastrophic.

Unemployment is already higher than it has ever been since the Great Depression. Supposedly, we’re somewhere between 15-20% at this EARLY STAGE of our looming depression. At the height of the Great Depression unemployment hit 25%.

Oil is effectively free on the market at this point. Petrochemicals are an enormous segment of the American economy, and the petrochemical industry is on the verge of collapse because nobody wants to buy their products (supply has far outstripped demand). The American petrochemical industry may lose 100,000 jobs if something doesn’t change soon.

Las Vegas is effectively dead. Tourism, in general, is nearly dead as are our airlines. Our economy is in seriously bad shape.

Given this state of affairs, a GREAT DEPRESSION seems quite likely to me. Our alleged leaders can call for the economy to “reopen” all they want. At this point, the American people aren’t showing up for the party. No way. We don’t want to die.

-Laelth



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More businesses will go broke faster. Zoonart Apr 2020 #1
Precisely. Laelth Apr 2020 #2
TPTB will alter MF45's path for him or people will get sick and die. theaocp Apr 2020 #9
Honestly, I think you are right. Laelth Apr 2020 #14
I think restaurants know that. leftyladyfrommo Apr 2020 #29
Yup. n/t Laelth Apr 2020 #49
Polling shows that fewer people are believing Trump's lies. eom guillaumeb Apr 2020 #3
The economy is proving that in spades. n/t Laelth Apr 2020 #5
Texas and Florida plan to have a party. cayugafalls Apr 2020 #4
The state leaders may be planning parties. Laelth Apr 2020 #10
Yea, I was kidding. I'm feeling sad today so my typing is off. cayugafalls Apr 2020 #13
No biggie. Laelth Apr 2020 #15
Hotels, resorts, casinos, cinemas, restaurants, airlines, etc won't stay afloat with RockRaven Apr 2020 #6
Yep. That is precisely the situation we are in. Laelth Apr 2020 #11
Exactly. What's next? The government declares that anyone on unemployment benefits stopbush Apr 2020 #18
+1 crickets Apr 2020 #45
A lot of places closed and cancelled before the orders came down. Mariana Apr 2020 #46
I started thinking this morning on what/where I would most like to go back to 3Hotdogs Apr 2020 #7
I suspect that all sane Americans agree with you. Laelth Apr 2020 #35
Thanks! Newest Reality Apr 2020 #8
Just in time has always been a huge potential clusterfuck. It totally depends on nothing going wrong gibraltar72 Apr 2020 #19
Thanks for the anecdote. Newest Reality Apr 2020 #23
Doesn't Have To Be ProfessorGAC Apr 2020 #38
My experience was in manufacturing years ago. gibraltar72 Apr 2020 #40
Same Thing G ProfessorGAC Apr 2020 #41
It all works until it doesn't gibraltar72 Apr 2020 #42
The Sites I Worked Used It ProfessorGAC Apr 2020 #44
Well said. n/t Laelth Apr 2020 #26
Good points! Perhaps a redevelopment of our economy is now occurring. Better efforts to ... SWBTATTReg Apr 2020 #12
Great response. Thank you. n/t Laelth Apr 2020 #48
Thank yiou for opening up such an interesting topic in return. You would think w/ the CV... SWBTATTReg Apr 2020 #50
Hear! Hear! Laelth Apr 2020 #51
Oh, here in Alabama, they will swarm to anything OPEN. nt Ferrets are Cool Apr 2020 #16
Some will. Laelth Apr 2020 #17
I humbly disagree. Most here are repugs...ie Not Sane Ferrets are Cool Apr 2020 #21
We must remember that we are in a tRump-created shitstorm. stopbush Apr 2020 #20
A strong leader, at this time, is needed to restore confidence ... Laelth Apr 2020 #27
No matter when things open up that will happen forthemiddle Apr 2020 #22
Eventually, sure. Laelth Apr 2020 #24
GA is about to find out. brer cat Apr 2020 #25
+1 crickets Apr 2020 #30
Excellent Analysis--Thanks marked50 Apr 2020 #28
Many won't. Restaurant reservations took a steep drive Hortensis Apr 2020 #31
Precisely. n/t Laelth Apr 2020 #37
We Canceled Reservations... ProfessorGAC Apr 2020 #39
You wanted a 41st more. And that was BEFORE awareness Hortensis Apr 2020 #43
Oh, they will come. KentuckyWoman Apr 2020 #32
You are more optimistic than I. Laelth Apr 2020 #33
I understand. KentuckyWoman Apr 2020 #34
Would a business that reopened open itself to lawsuits if a customer dies? NickB79 Apr 2020 #36
I know I won't Dem2 Apr 2020 #47
You are not alone, by any means. n/t Laelth Apr 2020 #52
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