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10. Not so fast. The black vote for Hillary dropped from that for Obama. trump won.

Wed May 20, 2020, 09:36 PM

May 2020

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The black vote is crucial to Dem victories (see also South Carolina). We want to see a record AA vote turn out.

And let's be frank, the black vote is a hugely important segment of the party base and it's way past time for a woman on the ticket as it's 2020. An all white ticket does not reflect the diversity of the party and we may very well be self-suppressing our own vote by again not returning the loyalty that black voters show to the party.

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Joe Biden vowed to pick a woman VP. Some Democrats say she must be a woman of color [View all] Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin May 2020 OP

I don't know who these "some people" are but Ferrets are Cool May 2020 #1

I think it would be a big mistake. n/t jaysunb May 2020 #2

Why? Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin May 2020 #3

Biden already has the black vote locked up. No need to pander at the cost of the election. jaysunb May 2020 #6

Not so fast. The black vote for Hillary dropped from that for Obama. trump won. brush May 2020 #10

Very well said nt Trumpocalypse May 2020 #22

Respectfully disagree. Obama won here in Florida both times. GulfCoast66 May 2020 #21

What are you disagreeing about? O won with a huge black voter turn out. brush May 2020 #27

I think I was replying to the same post as you. Just checked the thread and it looks like I did. GulfCoast66 May 2020 #34

No problem. We're on the same page. brush May 2020 #36

Just looked closer. I was indeed replying to Jaysunb. Not you. GulfCoast66 May 2020 #38

I like Harris too. Abrams is strong, and young. Demings is an ex-police chief, which... brush May 2020 #40

Like them all. And agree Rice is risky. GulfCoast66 May 2020 #46

calling it 'pandering' is really condescending, as is any assumption that Biden has the entirety Celerity May 2020 #25

Pandering is an accurate description Amishman May 2020 #72

then choosing a woman is pandering as well given this line of reasoning Celerity May 2020 #74

yes, that would qualify as well if chosen based on that factor and not overall qualification Amishman May 2020 #76

Yeah, let's take the base of our party for granted mcar May 2020 #30

Thank you. GulfCoast66 May 2020 #47

And another thing. Fuck pandering to racists. They're not going to vote blue anyway.. brush May 2020 #51

uhmm if you dont pick a black person because you are worried racists wont vote for her... jcgoldie May 2020 #53

I certainly don't mean pandering to racist. jaysunb May 2020 #60

It's An About Time Matter Me. May 2020 #4

I think that Joe would do well to publish his picks for his cabinet posts, including both genders abqtommy May 2020 #5

I hope he does Withywindle May 2020 #7

I agree: REALLY fond of Kamala Harris. She stands out. CurtEastPoint May 2020 #19

There are other and better choices than Harris. Trumpocalypse May 2020 #24

Name them and why. brush May 2020 #39

Well first Trumpocalypse May 2020 #42

Kamala has big time charisma and name recognition womanofthehills May 2020 #57

Big deal Trumpocalypse May 2020 #58

The other factor we need to consider is experience Amishman May 2020 #73

That's a GOP talking point Trumpocalypse May 2020 #75

Well said mcar May 2020 #77

I hope she is. There are a load of babylonsister May 2020 #8

Tammy Duckworth. War hero, POC, experienced. If selected a Dem governor chooses her replacement Arazi May 2020 #9

great idea! And woman of color no less AlexSFCA May 2020 #13

She threads a lot of needles. Plus she's charismatic and whip smart Arazi May 2020 #14

+1 LizBeth May 2020 #18

You, unlike most, are coloring outside of the box. Behind the Aegis May 2020 #70

So. Harris, then. Works for me. Gidney N Cloyd May 2020 #11

She's not the only African American woman available Trumpocalypse May 2020 #23

I think he should pick whoever he wants. It's up to him. SharonAnn May 2020 #12

I agree. He never should have locked himself into gender choice. Just choose a mate, mfcorey1 May 2020 #15

I think it was mistake to limit himself to a women VP. There are many men that could also doc03 May 2020 #56

exactly, all it got him is treestar May 2020 #67

Warren, Harris, I really like Rice. But no, it does not have to be a woman of color. It should LizBeth May 2020 #16

How about a woman that puts a swing state in play Trumpocalypse May 2020 #26

I know. But Biden has his own weaknesses and I like these progressive women. Harris is more LizBeth May 2020 #28

If they don't win the election Trumpocalypse May 2020 #31

I am looking at excitement for youth and progressives. I think that will create an excitement across LizBeth May 2020 #32

And which of those three do that? Trumpocalypse May 2020 #37

Both Harris and Warren will be capable. They are both awesomely powerful women. LizBeth May 2020 #44

Being awesomely powerful doesn't mean they'll put a swing state in play Trumpocalypse May 2020 #45

I think Biden might have something to do with the middle states also. LizBeth May 2020 #49

The point is Trumpocalypse May 2020 #50

You clearly have stated your point and I have clearly disagreed, lol. LizBeth May 2020 #52

What swing states will they flip? Trumpocalypse May 2020 #55

Biden has those state swinging from what I am seeing. Are we going to keep going in circles? LizBeth May 2020 #59

Which ones? Trumpocalypse May 2020 #62

Ahead in Wisc, Michigan, Penn, Florida LizBeth May 2020 #63

Polls had Clinton ahead in those states too Trumpocalypse May 2020 #64

You didn't read the article, did you? Look. We disagree. I think Biden will pull the swing states LizBeth May 2020 #65

I think that is naive and wishful thinking Trumpocalypse May 2020 #71

Will they vote for someone because his running mate is treestar May 2020 #68

No but it generates enthusiasm in the state Trumpocalypse May 2020 #69

It's really amazing how many great choices there are for a female VP. panader0 May 2020 #17

Nodding my head vigorously at every sentence of your post! n/t Guilded Lilly May 2020 #20

He needs to pick whomever will be the most help defeating the dictator and saving our democracy!! ElementaryPenguin May 2020 #29

Trump and his crime family seem most worried about Susan Rice. So, Susan Rice is my pick. Alex4Martinez May 2020 #33

Yes, she must have some color to her. Ligyron May 2020 #35

One of the problems is there is a wealth of talent from which to choose peggysue2 May 2020 #41

Joe Biden is the nominee and he should pick who he wants and everyone else can pound sand. liskddksil May 2020 #43

Michelle Lujan-Grisham Governor of N.M. ALBliberal May 2020 #48

"some people say" - WHO said????? Without names its just gossip. nt Kashkakat v.2.0 May 2020 #54

I don't know anyone who feels that way. ecstatic May 2020 #61

So he pledged to pick a woman and then some people have treestar May 2020 #66

I agree. Biden's pick has to be ready to be president on day one if need be. No restrictions! DFW May 2020 #78