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In reply to the discussion: An open letter to folks like myself who cannot in good conscience vote for Obama [View all]Union Scribe
(7,099 posts)162. Or, maybe they aren't all eager to become
such a desolate and lifeless echo chamber that even an Obama voter would be silenced for not being 100% enamored of his policies. It is a shitty and cold forum you desire.
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An open letter to folks like myself who cannot in good conscience vote for Obama [View all]
Kelvin Mace
Sep 2012
OP
My take: A vote for Obama is a huge vote against Citizens United. That's enough for me.
nanabugg
Sep 2012
#299
It's best if you learn how the US Government works and get taught recent history but you're
uponit7771
Sep 2012
#66
From your posting history, I'm not sure you ever had "a cause", at least not one that....
Tarheel_Dem
Sep 2012
#161
i'm a life-long democrat who has never voted republican. i post here to discuss policy issues that
HiPointDem
Sep 2012
#170
i posted the entire statement. i forgot nothing. as i said, if you have a problem with me or my
HiPointDem
Sep 2012
#172
bush got no child left behind with increased spending to close schools, not to mention an entirely
HiPointDem
Sep 2012
#193
Then let's stop spending all this money and time on the Presidential election and start focusing on
sabrina 1
Sep 2012
#74
Thanks, Kelvin. You could also consider it a vote to try to help me gain equal rights.
Zorra
Sep 2012
#3
he sets his own ed policy too. and pubs are happy to vote the money to destroy public education.
HiPointDem
Sep 2012
#35
Republicans did not choose his cabinet, he did. I hope this time he can find some
sabrina 1
Sep 2012
#85
He did NOT run on indefinite detention. He did not run on protecting War Criminals
sabrina 1
Sep 2012
#175
Yep, if that slimy skunk or any of his ilk are involved in Obama's second term
tavalon
Sep 2012
#184
You got to read paragraph8, or is it 9?, so the guy will vote for Obama anyway..ok??
Stuart G
Sep 2012
#9
Why? Why are people on a Democratic board advocating that people just 'stfu and vote'?
sabrina 1
Sep 2012
#80
Unfortunately there are many of us who will be voting with less enthusiasm this time.
unapatriciated
Oct 2012
#532
Have you been in a cave? You do know what happened in the 2010 midterms, right?
Tarheel_Dem
Sep 2012
#163
Oh, so you're saying none of us are disillusioned by what Obama promised and chose
tavalon
Sep 2012
#195
"please be as strident in pressing the President back to doing what is right" = dream on.
HiPointDem
Sep 2012
#13
Obamacare is not what was promised: It is a windfall for the insurance compaines
panzerfaust
Sep 2012
#436
Well if Utopia means simply not killing any more people in foreign countries, or
sabrina 1
Sep 2012
#528
What did you want from Obama that he hasn't delivered? Serious question....
scheming daemons
Sep 2012
#16
I also appreciate your honesty. I am sick to death of the pretentious, dishonest system
sabrina 1
Sep 2012
#90
In other words, you are suggesting that Republicans will trigger a Constitutional crisis.
longship
Sep 2012
#241
"In other words, you are suggesting that Republicans will trigger a Constitutional crisis."
Pab Sungenis
Sep 2012
#248
Fellow resident of NC--never was enchanted with Obama--but I don't need an excuse
mnhtnbb
Sep 2012
#46
Just like Senator Sanders said this very day (paraphrasing) "Vote for President Obama because
Egalitarian Thug
Sep 2012
#50
Thank you!! Obama will go down as one of the greatest presidents of ALL time!!
Liberal_Stalwart71
Sep 2012
#95
Well, that's good news. I'm glad you're onboard. I haven't been happy with everything,
Liberal_Stalwart71
Sep 2012
#396
If I had your patience. You completely de-constructed bullshit and showed it for what it is. nt
bluestate10
Sep 2012
#152
So basically you have just given up on all these issues. You have rationalized everything
sabrina 1
Sep 2012
#365
But none of this stopped the Republicans when THEY decided to prosecute a US President
sabrina 1
Sep 2012
#379
How is the OP violating the TOS? Is there some rule saying that valid concerns can't be raised
IndyJones
Sep 2012
#168
I love those who keep trying desperately to make this into something it isn't
Major Nikon
Sep 2012
#237
I'm going to say to you what I said to my friend who tried (like you) to keep me from voting Obama
DainBramaged
Sep 2012
#65
I love when someone obviously did not read the entire OP and then gets offended
RetroLounge
Sep 2012
#279
I was never behind Obama nor Hillary for that matter. I knew he was a conserva-Dem,
Cleita
Sep 2012
#100
Terms of Service : when general election season begins, DU members must support Democratic nominees
WinkyDink
Sep 2012
#110
So now those of us who don't like Obama but are supporting him anyway aren't welcome?
Pab Sungenis
Sep 2012
#240
"The 'disastrous on civil liberties' part especially does not ring true for me."
Pab Sungenis
Sep 2012
#247
MN, I agree with a lot of what you say, but I think the best reaction to this OP is...
stevenleser
Sep 2012
#249
Or maybe the Jury actually read the OP and understood that Democrats will need
sabrina 1
Sep 2012
#322
There is actually a difference between "support" and your now-disingenuous denial of your premise.
WinkyDink
Sep 2012
#235
I for one am not going to argue with someone who is doing what I want them to do
stevenleser
Sep 2012
#128
I don't hear similar sounding comments from most LGBT folks I know IRL or here on DU
stevenleser
Sep 2012
#254
I'm glad that there are people like the OP, without whom an awful lot of people
sabrina 1
Sep 2012
#471
Column what column? Didn't read it. All I read was that someone was taking themselves out of the
grantcart
Sep 2012
#310
If Obama loses, in 8 years your ilk will be running to the next great democratic hope.
bluestate10
Sep 2012
#151
This is what NC DU'ers Kelvin Mace, Joyce McCloy, other DU'ers Did for Verified Voting!
KoKo
Sep 2012
#407
You are dancing around my main points and asserting things for which you offered no proof
stevenleser
Sep 2012
#339
Thank you for your posts in this thread. I have been saying the same things for years.
unapatriciated
Oct 2012
#534
Boy, you're gonna look kind of silly if Reply #169 gets shut down by jury, huh?
tavalon
Sep 2012
#221
So you don't want people to vote for this President? Then what are you doing on DU?
sabrina 1
Sep 2012
#425
Yep. For the privileged it can be a "lesser evil." For the downtrodden, it is a necessity.
joshcryer
Sep 2012
#428
I don't understand how this thread is continuing. Is this DU or the Brietbart Report?
Walk away
Sep 2012
#167
Yes, it is DU, where people can think and discuss issues, even more so when elections
sabrina 1
Sep 2012
#177
It definitely has helped resolve a troubling decision for me. To vote for someone who
sabrina 1
Sep 2012
#181
he said he's voting for obama in the place of those likely to be purged from voting rolls.
HiPointDem
Sep 2012
#224
He's exhorting people to use his way to be able to vote for Obama, if they, like him,
tavalon
Sep 2012
#223
The title is grammatically clear, if not to the OP. Line 2 = "pro-Obama folk," clearly NOT the OP.
WinkyDink
Sep 2012
#243
I think you present a solution to those who feel as you do, but are rightly concerned that
gateley
Sep 2012
#307
I did the same thing back in 2001, exchanging my vote with someone in Georgia
twins.fan
Sep 2012
#275
I worked through the same dilemma and came to the same bottom line but with a different rationale.
eomer
Sep 2012
#276
While I understand your logic (although I disagree), I think it is only one half of the whole story.
DrewFlorida
Sep 2012
#288
I'm sorry. Embarrassingly, I didn't read your full post before hastily responding...
CreekDog
Sep 2012
#518
Speaking of Jill Stein....I wouldn't risk voting her her in a battleground state.
limpyhobbler
Sep 2012
#441
If it's a safe state like NY you can probably feel comfortable making a statement -
TBF
Sep 2012
#453
Kelvin, this is perhaps the most self-aggrandizing, specious, sophistic codswallop I've seen on DU.
Surya Gayatri
Sep 2012
#354
Thank you #354 ... A Legend in His/Her Own Mind. Poppycock. Santa didn't come. Deal with it.
cr8tvlde
Sep 2012
#367
It is an excellent way to foil those who would deprive people of their right to vote.
sabrina 1
Sep 2012
#416
Nauseating...I'm really sad you're allowed to spread your filth, but it is "Democratic Underground"
Rowdyboy
Sep 2012
#417
So you too are against encouraging people to vote for Obama? What is going on here?
sabrina 1
Sep 2012
#427
My reading comprehension is fine-and I understand exactly what the OP is trying to do....
Rowdyboy
Sep 2012
#437
"I'll cast my vote for the disenfranchised despite that they're not as enlightened as me."
joshcryer
Sep 2012
#429
"Promises from Candidate Obama about hope and change"--You sound like a GOP candidate
Kolesar
Sep 2012
#430
You're a non-reality glass-half-empty purist who doesn't understand the real world.
RBInMaine
Sep 2012
#431
Uh, yes, my post is for people who had my reservations about voting for Obama, such as myself
Kelvin Mace
Sep 2012
#479
Seems to be the vibe I am getting from a LOT of people who object to this post.
Kelvin Mace
Sep 2012
#465
I don't know your gender, and I don't even care, but if things don't work out with Whisp.....
Tarheel_Dem
Sep 2012
#511
That would be "know." And that would be yours truly. And you would still be wrong in your idiom
WinkyDink
Sep 2012
#482