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hifiguy

(33,688 posts)
9. When Willard loses - and I think he will lose big
Thu Sep 27, 2012, 11:52 AM
Sep 2012

absent some unforeseeable event between now and election day - there is going to be a bloodbath in the Republican party.

The old Reagan coalition of plutocrats, religulously insane and white working/middle-class bigots is coming unglued. The plutocrats got too greedy at the expense of much of the working and middle classes and the religulously insane warped off into a bizarro universe of their own. The growth in numbers of the Ayn Rand disciples only adds to the chaos. There ain't enough duct tape in the world to patch it back together.

The fundamental divide in the Repuke party now is between the plutocrats and the lunatic masses of religiously batshit dominionists, Ayn Rand disciples, xenophobic bigots and old-school John Birch Society paranoid crazies. The plutocrats have the money but the loonies have the numbers. There is no longer anything holding these groups together.

My guess is that, yes, there will be an even sharper turn to the right on the part of the loonies. There is no real Repuke "establishment" anymore and this campaign proves it. Rmoney was a perfect example of the old school plutocratic Establishment Republican. The only way he was able to secure the nomination was by pandering to the followers of the varied psychos (Bachmann, Santorum) on the far-right fringes. So expect the loonies to reject any attempt by the plutocrats to foist off a Jeb Bush on them in 2016. Jeb is a Bush and an epic asshole (I am here being redundant) but he's not a man bent on political suicide by pulling a Willard. By 2016 Bachmann and Santorum will represent the left edge of the Republican party base. They will go whole-hog in on Santorum or someone even more batshit insane that him. And if the economy is in anything resembling a decent state they will get crushed Goldwater or Mondale style.

The interesting question is whether the Repukes will ever be able to come back after such a curb-stomping. The plutocracy invented and ginned-up the baggers in a gamble, hoping that these orcs would let them reclaim a majority of the electorate. After Grampy tapped Princess Dumbass for the veep spot all of the real orcs and ogres came boiling down out of the attic William F. Buckley locked them in almost fifty years ago. They are now in the middle of the Repig dinner party scaring the cat half to death, taking bites out of the dog and dropping boot-sized turds on the Persian rug and no one knows how to get rid of them. As happened to Doctor Frankenstein the monster they created has turned on them. The choices confronting the Repuke establishment at this point are mutually destructive. The only way to kill the monster is to blow up the castle that is the Repuke party but then they go down with it. If they don't, the monster will take over the castle and probably blow it up anyway. They are epically fked.

The republican party should look in the mirror. That is who to blame. Romney is doing southernyankeebelle Sep 2012 #1
They need an 'Obama' of their own. I don't see anyone on the horizon for them. randome Sep 2012 #2
Until the get rid of their tea party and religous right they may keep having problems. southernyankeebelle Sep 2012 #19
How about Mr. 999 ? Auntie Bush Sep 2012 #34
The republican party should look in the mirror. Flashmann Sep 2012 #4
Well the 47% will help them look at themselves. southernyankeebelle Sep 2012 #18
Yeah, Romney is a tool ProSense Sep 2012 #6
People finally have woken up and seeing that Mittens represents what all republicans think. southernyankeebelle Sep 2012 #17
Republican voters have been duped Jessy169 Sep 2012 #38
It's the Fox News Network. Listen I grew up in a dem family. We always voted our southernyankeebelle Sep 2012 #46
Mitt Romney is not the one who destroyed the Republican Party, nor can he clean it up 1-Old-Man Sep 2012 #3
AWESOME! Democrats are coming out to fight. Zalatix Sep 2012 #5
Thank you for helping lovemydog Sep 2012 #43
As long as Democrats don't take a sharp right turn, too. sadbear Sep 2012 #7
Democrats need to stay where they are now, it's a winning position. bluestate10 Sep 2012 #22
I'm holding out hope for Dr. Dean. sadbear Sep 2012 #23
I was just thinking the same thing! eom Th1onein Sep 2012 #39
Agreed. Even if he decides NOT to take another run at the White House, Volaris Sep 2012 #45
Rmoney wouldn't care either way because BumRushDaShow Sep 2012 #8
When Willard loses - and I think he will lose big hifiguy Sep 2012 #9
Excellent analysis. bluestate10 Sep 2012 #24
Quotable, all of it. Populist_Prole Sep 2012 #41
They'll react like they always do - by going further to the right kysrsoze Sep 2012 #10
If they do that they will be come as irrelevant as the Green Party in 2016 1-Old-Man Sep 2012 #11
In the long term they will become irrelevant. mick063 Sep 2012 #12
I disagree, but only in part 1-Old-Man Sep 2012 #13
We are fairly close to agreement mick063 Sep 2012 #16
Alaska has several state Republican politicians who are as you describe, Blue_In_AK Sep 2012 #44
It won't be 40% by 2016, or even 2014. bluestate10 Sep 2012 #26
There are quite a few good people who've been sucked into the RW/GOP/Xtian Vortex Mopar151 Sep 2012 #14
I know people that are lifelong republicans that are remorseful now. bluestate10 Sep 2012 #27
I don't feel sorry for them marions ghost Sep 2012 #31
Hopefully they'll start by at least just not voting. Arugula Latte Sep 2012 #32
Shit like this makes me fear over confidence. This could all turn south. Bucky Sep 2012 #15
"Most of the big ad money hasn't hit the airwaves yet. " ProSense Sep 2012 #21
I completely disagree. bluestate10 Sep 2012 #29
Its their own Fault!!!!!!! mstinamotorcity2 Sep 2012 #20
I think our President is going to peel away a good and noticeable percentage of the Republican vote bluestate10 Sep 2012 #35
Maybe the GOP should out source for their candidate! L0oniX Sep 2012 #25
Does this mean we'll never see Romney again? Permanut Sep 2012 #28
k&r... spanone Sep 2012 #30
Rubio, Daniels, Ryan, Christie, Haley, etc.. those are who they will push for 2016 davidn3600 Sep 2012 #33
I guess that republicans will go with a downstream candidate, bluestate10 Sep 2012 #36
Finger pointing is one of the republicans B Calm Sep 2012 #37
You don't threaten the social safety net when most Americans Th1onein Sep 2012 #40
I have a different theory ribrepin Sep 2012 #42
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