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Cheezoholic

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Tue Nov 10, 2020, 08:45 PM Nov 2020

Does nobody remember that when it comes to the ACA... [View all]

the compromises that were made from the original proposal? The original proposal was basically single payer. The current ACA is a gutted version of what Obama and the Democrats originally wanted. In desperation to at least get something they not only compromised with the Republicans but let the Republicans put extreme restrictions on it just to get something passed. One of those was the penalty if you have no insurance. That was a Republican introduced requirement to the bill. The Republicans gutted ACA, set it up for failure in the future as a mea culpa to the Democrats so it would pass. The Democrats, backed into a corner, compromised the shit out of the ACA just to get at least something. It is very important, the Republicans wanted the mandate originally! I swear, the shit these fucks get away with.

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I hear you and your frustration; plus, I share them. Outrageous! n/t CaliforniaPeggy Nov 2020 #1
I remember MiniMe Nov 2020 #2
For those who don't remember what happened with the ACA, here is a walk down memory lane still_one Nov 2020 #3
Thanks. NT enough Nov 2020 #5
Thank you for that and to be clear.. Cheezoholic Nov 2020 #7
Thank-you. still_one Nov 2020 #9
People seem to forget this part In It to Win It Nov 2020 #8
And since those conservative Democrats were booted, we have been able to get nothing...we Demsrule86 Nov 2020 #12
bart stupak Hyde Amendment fed dollars Cerridwen Nov 2020 #17
Yes - that was the final piece BumRushDaShow Nov 2020 #21
Good post. Notably, Franken was illicitly kept from being seated Hortensis Nov 2020 #18
Don't forget this guy - BumRushDaShow Nov 2020 #20
Lots of compromises were necessary to get something, but I think Hoyt Nov 2020 #4
I don't recall single payer being on the table. It would have never made it past the Senate In It to Win It Nov 2020 #6
It still won't be passed in the house...if we get the senate maybe a public option. Demsrule86 Nov 2020 #11
I don't disagree In It to Win It Nov 2020 #13
It wasn't "through the Democrats". It was "couldn't get it through Lieberman" BumRushDaShow Nov 2020 #22
Lieberman caucused with Democrats, so there I include Lieberman in "Democrats". In It to Win It Nov 2020 #24
Yes except there were basically ONLY 2 in the Senate BumRushDaShow Nov 2020 #25
Those are facts that I do not argue. My position is broad. My only point is that we could not In It to Win It Nov 2020 #26
Yes I agree and that was unfortunate due to a pair of show-boaters BumRushDaShow Nov 2020 #27
Yes, that's right. I don't know where the OP heard that. ehrnst Nov 2020 #15
It was -- as an OPTION. The ACA was not "basically single payer." Hortensis Nov 2020 #19
The ACA made America belive health care was a right...so I love it...but we need the Senate Demsrule86 Nov 2020 #10
Welcome to DU greenjar_01 Nov 2020 #14
The penalty (mandate BS?) was $100 USD, that's it? Brainfodder Nov 2020 #16
It was never single payer. The votes were not there Demsrule86 Nov 2020 #23
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