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matt819

(10,749 posts)
4. Spot on, I think
Fri Nov 13, 2020, 01:12 PM
Nov 2020

It's about people not like them:

`` LGBTQ+ frighten them.
`` Same with Blacks, Hispanics, non-Christians, immigrants. It's not so much about white supremacy as it is white superiority. It's about some antiquated version of a status quo that has not been in America since the 1980s.
`` Abortion. This despite the actual fact that abortions decline under Democratic presidents.
`` Anti-intellectual, which covers anti-science, climate denial, anti-elites. Why are they this way? Who the fuck knows. I think it's because they don't want any disturbance of their very closeted world view. Maybe they don't have the intellectual capacity to take it all in. Maybe it's crisis overload. Maybe it's because they just aren't interested. Maybe they're just trying to put food on the table. Or maybe this, maybe that. As I said, who the fuck knows.

But I think you're right about the core issue. It's not the economy (apart from jobs), it's not about foreign policy, it's not about infrastructure.

The reality about working class whites... [View all] Drunken Irishman Nov 2020 OP
RW Propaganda has poisoned working class people against unions Sanity Claws Nov 2020 #1
OTOH, it's not that hard to come off as ... mr_lebowski Nov 2020 #2
The defund the police stuff sent 3 of my friends back to Trump. redstatebluegirl Nov 2020 #5
Of course, you know your friends better than I do StarfishSaver Nov 2020 #28
I disagree, when you have people who have always voted one way getting them to change redstatebluegirl Nov 2020 #32
So ... They hate Trump and everything he stands for but they think "defunding the police" StarfishSaver Nov 2020 #34
This sounds mean, but it's true. "Trumpamerica" is short on smarts and character. nt Progressive Jones Nov 2020 #38
Cool story, bro. Yeehah Nov 2020 #39
But Democrats are none of those things you listed. Turin_C3PO Nov 2020 #6
And I'm saying we need to do a better job of fighting that propaganda somehow mr_lebowski Nov 2020 #7
I'm not against attempting Turin_C3PO Nov 2020 #8
We have a consensus then mr_lebowski Nov 2020 #14
But you didn't say it was about propaganda. You said Democrats can ... Caliman73 Nov 2020 #15
If it's about isms then democrats need to talk differently and stop GOP from beachbumbob Nov 2020 #3
Spot on, I think matt819 Nov 2020 #4
I wonder what the difference is... I'm lower class/working class and a white guy ck4829 Nov 2020 #9
You just said the difference: you're college educated. Drunken Irishman Nov 2020 #10
What media do you consume? Caliman73 Nov 2020 #16
You're not wrong at all ck4829 Nov 2020 #18
Exactly. Caliman73 Nov 2020 #21
You not being a racist is a big difference StarfishSaver Nov 2020 #29
Thanks ck4829 Nov 2020 #37
They feel a sense of powerlessness not because of the economy, but because of the culture. Yavin4 Nov 2020 #11
Agreed. Ironically, they're the real snowflakes. Drunken Irishman Nov 2020 #13
I agree for the most part. Caliman73 Nov 2020 #20
Yep. We (those of us who are middle class or working class) are all riding in the BusyBeingBest Nov 2020 #22
And what and whom they blame is driven by certain factors - including, in large part, racism StarfishSaver Nov 2020 #30
Even if we bring back every factory job sent overseas and gave them middle class wages with benefits Yavin4 Nov 2020 #24
Run John Fetterman (Pa. Lt. Gov) for POTUS and we'll bring them back farmbo Nov 2020 #12
It's the threat of equality white people are afraid of. Barbara2423 Nov 2020 #17
And they feel those 5 that went to others were stolen from them StarfishSaver Nov 2020 #31
it's cuz being white is all they have. mopinko Nov 2020 #19
Ding ding ding StarfishSaver Nov 2020 #35
It's identity politics for them JI7 Nov 2020 #23
This message was self-deleted by its author LeftInTX Nov 2020 #25
I'm gonna give you a big old kiss StarfishSaver Nov 2020 #26
Appeal to the working class. Whites are welcome to join, or not. lagomorph777 Nov 2020 #27
Post removed Post removed Nov 2020 #33
K&R betsuni Nov 2020 #36
The Democratic Party just needs to do a lot better at educating voters about the issues... WyattKansas Nov 2020 #40
Exactly! Thank you! Duppers Nov 2020 #41
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