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Hortensis

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34. Oh, absolutely! We're not talking Democrats who used Sanders
Mon Nov 16, 2020, 05:22 PM
Nov 2020

to pressure the party to "do more." They're Democrats. They're us.

When it comes to Sanders's subset of Disgruntleds, we're talking about both those angry whites who went to Trump by way of Sanders to fight against too much equality and also the always intransigent leftists who refused to vote Democrat in 2016, 2018, and 2020 (also 2000, 2002, 2004, 2006, 2008, etc). They all claimed to be "Progressive" because that's the label Sanders gave them, but half voted Republican in 2016 and the other half voted third party -- also to defeat America's progressive party.

Sanders didn't exactly have to drug his so-called "purists" to make them believe Democrats were corrupt and "just as bad." They always knew and insisted that, and that's what he used to scoop this leaderless group up when Elizabeth Warren decided not to run in 2015. She wouldn't have run a populist anti-Democratic campaign anyway, ceding the most intransigent to Jill Stein or some other anti-Democratic whackjob.

The battle cry of the left wing of the Disgruntled Party: Aristus Nov 2020 #1
Yes. Hillary Clinton and Barack Obama too. MineralMan Nov 2020 #3
I totally agree. redstatebluegirl Nov 2020 #2
and ironically, it's the mushy flibberdigibbets in the middle that determine the outcome maxsolomon Nov 2020 #5
Sorry, not low information here, don't insult a large portion of Democrats. redstatebluegirl Nov 2020 #6
didn't think i was. i'm quite aware that you're not low-information. maxsolomon Nov 2020 #8
I do not think they are determinate in elections at all. MineralMan Nov 2020 #10
The Obama-Trump voters JonLP24 Nov 2020 #13
I met a Biden voter with distinctly retrograde opinions this weekend. maxsolomon Nov 2020 #16
I believe that the massive bulk of voters in the US MineralMan Nov 2020 #19
Disagree Turin_C3PO Nov 2020 #14
The Good, the Bad, and the Ugly? struggle4progress Nov 2020 #4
That's another way to put it, yes. MineralMan Nov 2020 #7
Agree. Notably their leaders provide "platforms" in the form of Hortensis Nov 2020 #25
That's an excellent example, I think. MineralMan Nov 2020 #27
"while the worst are full of passionate intensity." Yeats did not Hortensis Nov 2020 #28
Yeats knew his stuff. MineralMan Nov 2020 #29
The Disgruntled Party is always eager to complain, denigrate, insult and belittle... NurseJackie Nov 2020 #9
Perhaps a venomous serpent? MineralMan Nov 2020 #12
Perhaps... a scorpion that cannot be trusted. NurseJackie Nov 2020 #15
Another possibility. MineralMan Nov 2020 #17
This? NurseJackie Nov 2020 #20
Perfect! MineralMan Nov 2020 #21
The disgruntled party is those that don't vote for any of the candidates JonLP24 Nov 2020 #11
As long as people Turin_C3PO Nov 2020 #18
They don't vote Democratic, though, at least not consistently. MineralMan Nov 2020 #24
Agree LeftInTX Nov 2020 #26
The subject is the latter and those who vote against Democrats Hortensis Nov 2020 #30
I definitely Turin_C3PO Nov 2020 #31
I wobble. Most don't really know what they're doing or why. Hortensis Nov 2020 #32
Even Turin_C3PO Nov 2020 #33
Oh, absolutely! We're not talking Democrats who used Sanders Hortensis Nov 2020 #34
Maybe even a FOURTH party of bluestarone Nov 2020 #22
GOP newdayneeded Nov 2020 #23
You forgot the lazy don't bother to vote party. we can do it Nov 2020 #35
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