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PJMcK

(22,037 posts)
9. You wouldn't need a full Constitutional Convention
Wed Nov 25, 2020, 05:52 PM
Nov 2020

Last edited Wed Nov 25, 2020, 06:55 PM - Edit history (1)

A change to a president's pardon powers could be done with a Constitutional Amendment which can be done legislatively. The rest of your point is correct and you're right to point out how difficult it is to effectuate and Amendment. There have been only 33 Amendments passed by Congress but only 27 were ratified by the States. (Interestingly, that suggests an average of one Amendment every 9 years of our nation's history.)


ETA: Actually, my math and logic are slightly incorrect. The Bill of Rights has the first ten Amendments to the Constitution. They were nearly contemporaneous with the ratification of the Constitution.

Accordingly, there were only 17 Amendments that were ratified in roughly 240 years. Ergo, one Amendment every 14-1/4 years. The last Amendment to be ratified was the 27th which was ratified in 1992. It delays laws affecting Congressional salary from taking effect until after the next election of representatives and was first proposed in 1789! Prior to that was the 26th which gave 18-year olds the right to vote and it was ratified in 1971.

It's been a long time since we've had an Amendment become law. Our dysfunctional and polarized society prevent any changes.

Little thing called the Constitution says, sorry, no can do. onenote Nov 2020 #1
Ok, now, dware Nov 2020 #2
You wouldn't need a full Constitutional Convention PJMcK Nov 2020 #9
Thanks for the information, dware Nov 2020 #11
Thank you! PJMcK Nov 2020 #13
And a Happy Thanksgiving to you and yours also. dware Nov 2020 #15
More precisely: Congress can start the amendment process, but 3/4 of states still must ratify onenote Nov 2020 #18
The last contemporary Amendment was ratified in 1971 PJMcK Nov 2020 #19
For outgoing governors too. Remember what Matt Bevin of Kentucky did? Mike 03 Nov 2020 #3
We need reforms. SmartVoter22 Nov 2020 #4
Think about what you're saying, dware Nov 2020 #5
unless its pardons for someone carrying a little too much mj TheRealNorth Nov 2020 #12
This is a very good suggestion, and it could apply to other activities, like scrapping treaties. .nt Bernardo de La Paz Nov 2020 #6
seems like a good idea RussBLib Nov 2020 #7
It cannot be done "legislatively" such a change would require an amendment to the Constitution. tritsofme Nov 2020 #8
Darn. Well, that's no easy task. Funtatlaguy Nov 2020 #16
I can see ending the transition period dsc Nov 2020 #10
How about two weeks or a month before Election Day. Funtatlaguy Nov 2020 #14
But you still run headlong into the Constitution. nt dware Nov 2020 #17
A change such as this would be inherently partisan. keithbvadu2 Nov 2020 #20
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