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moriah

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79. Just remember, Trump trashing John McCain likely helped us get AZ & that seat.

Tue Dec 1, 2020, 07:38 PM

Dec 2020

Trump did himself zero favors by alienating a state where McCain was considered a "hero", and the nature of his attacks were so egregious that they turned off people who aren't even big military supporters.

People don't have to bend over backwards to erase the negative McCain did or praise him to the skies.

All we have to do to be "better than Trump" here is not call POWs or veterans "losers" or "suckers".

Kelly's remarks were appropriate, especially given how it truly is better optics for us to act like we remember McCain's military service and service-related disability (and efforts at campaign finance reform), not singing "Bomb Iran".

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Mark Kelly tweet about John McCain, the day before he's sworn in as Senator in McCain's seat: [View all] George II Dec 2020 OP

Liking John McCain... lame54 Dec 2020 #1

+ 1 bazillion melman Dec 2020 #3

Tell that to President Barack Obama: George II Dec 2020 #22

TY for reminding us of that Historical Cha Dec 2020 #24

This is a Democratic board melman Dec 2020 #35

Then I guess, according to that statement, Barack Obama wouldn't be welcome here? George II Dec 2020 #37

In late August of 2018, Ocasio-Cortez wrote of McCain... LanternWaste Dec 2020 #44

My opinion of her just ticked up a notch. NurseJackie Dec 2020 #55

an ironically apropos title LanternWaste Dec 2020 #60

Appropriate quote from an appropriate play soldierant Dec 2020 #91

"YERRRRRR!" George II Dec 2020 #56

lol JI7 Dec 2020 #74

Yeah, saying nice things when someone dies is nice melman Dec 2020 #58

McCain was one of the more honorable Republicans, pazzyanne Dec 2020 #59

"one of the more honorable Republicans" melman Dec 2020 #61

As faint as "...an unparalleled example of human decency and American service." LanternWaste Dec 2020 #62

What? melman Dec 2020 #63

Goodness gracious. LanternWaste Dec 2020 #68

What? melman Dec 2020 #70

Goodness gracious indeed. Go figure, eh? George II Dec 2020 #122

This message was self-deleted by its author catbyte Dec 2020 #76

That was an AOC quote catbyte Dec 2020 #77

Yeah melman Dec 2020 #78

Some might think it does. George II Dec 2020 #80

They might melman Dec 2020 #81

Are you sure of what that person thought it proved? George II Dec 2020 #83

Yes melman Dec 2020 #86

Sure. George II Dec 2020 #87

Yet you don't accuse her of what you're accusing Mark Kelly and many here on DU of doing. ehrnst Dec 2020 #139

You have a problem with what Representative Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez said? YOU? Hmmm..... George II Dec 2020 #113

See post # 78 melman Dec 2020 #114

In other words, you have a problem with her sincere, heartfelt sentiments. Got it. George II Dec 2020 #116

See post # 58 melman Dec 2020 #118

In other words, you have a problem with her sincere, heartfelt sentiments. Got it. George II Dec 2020 #119

Duplicate post. See: George II Dec 2020 #117

But praise and respect none the less. pazzyanne Dec 2020 #67

Exactly right - some just can't grasp that concept. George II Dec 2020 #88

Agreed. ShazzieB Dec 2020 #147

Keep repeating that all you want. Millions of us remember when he helped save the ACA pnwmom Dec 2020 #72

And his military service and his time as a POW in N. Vietnam dware Dec 2020 #92

Yes that too. He was a hero, no matter what anyone thinks of the Vietnam war. n/t pnwmom Dec 2020 #93

As was posted before: In late August of 2018, Ocasio-Cortez wrote of McCain Malmsy Dec 2020 #135

I agree with AOC, and murielm99 Dec 2020 #75

This is a Democratic board, so quite dumping on Democratic Senator Mark Kelly. nt pnwmom Dec 2020 #73

Crickets. George II Dec 2020 #96

It's possible to respect McCain without endorsing him. Happy Hoosier Dec 2020 #132

Not from you but thanks anyway sheilahi Dec 2020 #142

Hmmm, dware Dec 2020 #144

I will never forget True Blue American Dec 2020 #38

The look on Mitch's face says it all. joshcryer Dec 2020 #51

Mitch stood there with his pre-existing polio condition Captain Zero Dec 2020 #65

Mitch never brought anything to a vote unless he had it. joshcryer Dec 2020 #124

There are some things that a "real" POTUS must do and say Ferrets are Cool Dec 2020 #131

Who said that he was? (nt) ehrnst Dec 2020 #145

He refused an early departure from Hanoi Hilton when he was extremely ill grantcart Dec 2020 #52

Wow Wow Wow lillypaddle Dec 2020 #64

Are there any more hard-right Republicans I'm not allowed to criticize? melman Dec 2020 #71

We get it. You hate him. cwydro Dec 2020 #101

+100. dware Dec 2020 #104

Oh that's fabulous melman Dec 2020 #110

You said that. cwydro Dec 2020 #129

John McCain was not a hard-right republican. George II Dec 2020 #123

Mean Democrats don't really do well Polybius Dec 2020 #108

leave the name calling to your rightwing friends and spare us. sheilahi Dec 2020 #140

+100. dware Dec 2020 #141

True, but..... Gregory Peccary Dec 2020 #7

But can respect. He single handedly kept the ACA alive question everything Dec 2020 #14

Because he HATES Trump - not because he likes Americans... lame54 Dec 2020 #18

John McCain doesn't hate anyone. George II Dec 2020 #28

I'll guess we'll leave it at that lame54 Dec 2020 #34

Politics and strange bed fellows? question everything Dec 2020 #89

He also defended Obama against Birtherism berni_mccoy Dec 2020 #48

That happened in Minnesota. pazzyanne Dec 2020 #66

Yes, but he had allowed the crazy until then. He did not moonscape Dec 2020 #85

It's not "expected of us", but what good does hating him now after he's left us? George II Dec 2020 #15

Because it gets worse... lame54 Dec 2020 #25

+1 progressoid Dec 2020 #42

Interesting conclusion. I haven't read anywhere that we were supposed okaawhatever Dec 2020 #45

Thank you for the list. Your last sentence says it all for me. nt Hekate Dec 2020 #49

He was maimed in service to our nation. Ilsa Dec 2020 #90

Thank you for your perspective. There are those who have no concept of 'grey areas'. GoneOffShore Dec 2020 #126

I was glad that he worked w/ Russ Feingold on campaign finance reform AdamGG Dec 2020 #57

+1 Not Heidi Dec 2020 #128

Nice people... Sorely needed right now! Karadeniz Dec 2020 #2

Amen to that!!! secondwind Dec 2020 #10

Mark Kelly is going to be a great Senator FakeNoose Dec 2020 #4

Mark Kelly ........ KeyWestRick Dec 2020 #5

TY.. this Tribute to McCain is what Sen Elect Cha Dec 2020 #6

Yes, Kelly does have to run again in 2022 when McCain's term would have ended wishstar Dec 2020 #8

TY.. thought so! Cha Dec 2020 #12

I expect much better from Senator Kelly, but that's proper statesmanship. Hortensis Dec 2020 #9

Your statement doesn't make sense. tymorial Dec 2020 #26

McCain's final vote for the ACA does not erase a career Hortensis Dec 2020 #41

Just remember, Trump trashing John McCain likely helped us get AZ & that seat. moriah Dec 2020 #79

Agree with the last. This is what people in his position do. Hortensis Dec 2020 #84

McCain served AZ and country and was not a death cultist ... Hermit-The-Prog Dec 2020 #30

Smart move for an AZ senator not fooled Dec 2020 #11

Hard to fathom the dislike of McCain at this point: LakeArenal Dec 2020 #13

Reagan's dead melman Dec 2020 #19

🙄 LakeArenal Dec 2020 #31

Agreed BigOleDummy Dec 2020 #94

+100. dware Dec 2020 #95

This is a smart move for two reasons AmericanCanuck Dec 2020 #16

Exactly.. I said basically the same Cha Dec 2020 #21

Adults. Experienced. Professional. LanternWaste Dec 2020 #17

Nice olive branch. LisaM Dec 2020 #20

Precisely! TY Cha Dec 2020 #23

Well said, thank you. scarletwoman Dec 2020 #27

Cindy McCain not only endorsed Joe Biden but said pointedly.... George II Dec 2020 #36

Yes I should have mentioned that. LisaM Dec 2020 #40

It Was a Strong Endorsement, In Fact Skraxx Dec 2020 #53

Have no fear DFW Dec 2020 #32

Kelly has to run again in 2 years. panader0 Dec 2020 #54

There's that, too DFW Dec 2020 #125

i think that McCain is buried in Annapolis backroadblast Dec 2020 #127

Yes, dware Dec 2020 #136

Yes. It's adult behavior, and the modeling of adult behavior is appreciated, especially now. crickets Dec 2020 #98

Sen. John McCain is widely respected here in Arizona, dware Dec 2020 #99

You bring up another great point. crickets Dec 2020 #106

Decency Joinfortmill Dec 2020 #29

John McCain was a mixed bag lunatica Dec 2020 #33

compare to how Mitch and Amy Covid Barrett took a big shit on the grave of RBG TomDaisy Dec 2020 #39

McCain would have voted to confirm Barrett melman Dec 2020 #47

Bullshit!!! dware Dec 2020 #97

Name a Republican nominee he voted against melman Dec 2020 #100

You still cannot guarantee 100% that he would have voted for her, dware Dec 2020 #102

Of course, which is why you probably won't get a response. It's all hypothetical and moot. George II Dec 2020 #107

John McCain was never Majority or Minority Leader. He didn't have the final say in any of that. George II Dec 2020 #112

He voted to uphold the ACA. ehrnst Dec 2020 #138

Amazing how some can channel the dead. George II Dec 2020 #109

It surely is. dware Dec 2020 #111

"100% guaranteed." And you know that how? George II Dec 2020 #105

Did you hold a seance to consult him on that? ehrnst Dec 2020 #137

Cindy McCain just thanked Kelly DesertRat Dec 2020 #43

Thanks. I didn't read all the responses on Twitter yet, missed that one. George II Dec 2020 #46

BS on the anti-McCain stuff. This is Kelly's moment and I respect it. Don't need a history lesson. dameatball Dec 2020 #50

... Lucinda Dec 2020 #69

A man put together by patchwork, as are most of us. BobTheSubgenius Dec 2020 #82

... cwydro Dec 2020 #103

Classy move BannonsLiver Dec 2020 #115

And, Now Mark Kelly is Sworn In.. Cha Dec 2020 #149

I want Mark Kelly to be re-elected. This was a smart and classy move. yardwork Dec 2020 #120

It's Arizona, Kelly made the correct political statement. MerryBlooms Dec 2020 #121

K&R Blue Owl Dec 2020 #130

McCain stepped up for America more than once. pwb Dec 2020 #133

"ERHMAGHERD YOU SHALL HATE ALL REPUBLICANS!!!" Tarc Dec 2020 #134

Class! Soxfan58 Dec 2020 #143

Kind and respectful DashOneBravo Dec 2020 #146

Cindy McCain Tweets back.. Cha Dec 2020 #148

And, NOW Mark Kelly is Sworn in as Senator Cha Dec 2020 #150