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199. Dead on Pander0

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Wed Dec 23, 2020, 01:27 AM

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Let's talk about AOC. [View all] panader0 Dec 2020 OP

She's young... orwell Dec 2020 #1

Agreed. panader0 Dec 2020 #2

Much potential but she needs to distance herself from the self-avowed stance... brush Dec 2020 #32

Not a mistake at all IMO. Chakaconcarne Dec 2020 #88

We lost 12 house seats because republicans tagged their Dem opponents as... brush Dec 2020 #100

That is only because Republicans have poisoned that word. Most people don't even PatrickforO Dec 2020 #92

Completely agree birdographer Dec 2020 #96

Listen to post 120 questionseverything Dec 2020 #127

I love AOC. She can be a little brash, but I'm glad she speaks out. CrispyQ Dec 2020 #3

These days the Eisenhower platform would be considered "liberal" by Rs. panader0 Dec 2020 #8

Any criticism of the party is considered bashing by a lot of people. CrispyQ Dec 2020 #21

Exactly. Like Bernie points out, when you look at these so-called PatrickforO Dec 2020 #93

Kept quiet? treestar Dec 2020 #173

Ridiculous. Nobody is bashing anyone here. NurseJackie Dec 2020 #4

It's interesting how suddenly BannonsLiver Dec 2020 #11

You mean the guy who fought against the impact of COVID? Cuthbert Allgood Dec 2020 #18

There's really no reason to limit it to just one or two reasons to get pissed at them. BannonsLiver Dec 2020 #25

When it comes to the vaccine, why isn't anyone talking about Ilhan Omar? She has a great...... George II Dec 2020 #118

As a teacher, I appreciate her position. Cuthbert Allgood Dec 2020 #166

Why do you dislike her Nurse Jackie? panader0 Dec 2020 #14

LOL! You know perfectly well that I never said such a thing. NurseJackie Dec 2020 #30

So you do like AOC then Dem4Life1102 Dec 2020 #46

Lulz! NurseJackie Dec 2020 #48

Well if you don't dislike someone Dem4Life1102 Dec 2020 #50

I live in the real world.. not a binary, or black-and-white world. NurseJackie Dec 2020 #53

Indifference??? Dem4Life1102 Dec 2020 #56

example Don1 Dec 2020 #253

Example of what? Dem4Life1102 Dec 2020 #254

not indifference. n/t Don1 Dec 2020 #255

Indeed. Celerity Jan 2021 #259

That's not correct whopis01 Dec 2020 #81

Very true Dem4Life1102 Dec 2020 #101

It means no such thing. Codeine Dec 2020 #111

Logically? Dem4Life1102 Dec 2020 #117

What? There are probably millions of people in this country about whom I have NO opinion... George II Dec 2020 #123

And never heard of either Dem4Life1102 Dec 2020 #128

Post removed Post removed Dec 2020 #134

tip for you Skittles Dec 2020 #138

Very true Dem4Life1102 Dec 2020 #145

Damned if you do..........pour me another drink. George II Dec 2020 #139

Reminds me of that ol' question asked during the bush administration. If you didn't agree 100%... George II Dec 2020 #121

yup Skittles Dec 2020 #142

And that follow up question from someone else is even more typical of that era. George II Dec 2020 #122

See, that right there, Codeine Dec 2020 #109

Careful Jackie... some want a certain response... for their own reasons...we know this. Demsrule86 Dec 2020 #17

......... paleotn Dec 2020 #58

I know, right?! Absurd, isn't it? There's no bashing going on! Ridiculous! NurseJackie Dec 2020 #60

Other than the occasional bash-o-rama when it comes to various Dems... paleotn Dec 2020 #68

Yeah, to be honest I have seen some pretty negative statements about AOC PatrickforO Dec 2020 #97

Actually, I confess. world wide wally Dec 2020 #72

didn't you get the memo? Skittles Dec 2020 #137

I didn't receive the official memo... but it's not difficult to figure out. NurseJackie Dec 2020 #143

;) sheshe2 Dec 2020 #169

It's bashing not to worship AOC, yet OK for AOC treestar Dec 2020 #174

Let's not, and say we did. BannonsLiver Dec 2020 #5

You beat me to it! Peacetrain Dec 2020 #9

You beat me to saying "you beat me to it". NurseJackie Dec 2020 #35

Oh Lord Jackie.. Peacetrain Dec 2020 #36

Come on BL, let it go. Say your piece. panader0 Dec 2020 #12

Let what go? BannonsLiver Dec 2020 #38

Well, the point of my OP was to find out why so many here don't like her. panader0 Dec 2020 #40

Some would say she's pretty divisive herself. BannonsLiver Dec 2020 #43

Thank you--best reply to my question so far. panader0 Dec 2020 #63

Snort grantcart Dec 2020 #28

Well said. (nt) Paladin Dec 2020 #41

She is the progressive wing of the party. Lunabell Dec 2020 #6

I had no idea...list the bills she has passed. Wonderful...thanks in advance. Demsrule86 Dec 2020 #15

Some people actually work towards the advancement of ideals in increments Lunabell Dec 2020 #27

"Working class roots"? Her father owned an architecture firm. George II Dec 2020 #146

Some people spend more time bashing progressives, Lunabell Dec 2020 #206

AOC doesn't approve of incrementalism, same as Bernie Sanders. betsuni Dec 2020 #156

Some historians say that we only got out of the Depression because of the massive spending caused usajumpedtheshark Dec 2020 #203

Well, that was AOC, not me. betsuni Dec 2020 #204

I apologize. It was not my intention to suggest that you did not. usajumpedtheshark Dec 2020 #207

Oh, no problem. betsuni Dec 2020 #209

Some, but not all. Looking only at unemployment as a barometer, it was already way way down.... George II Dec 2020 #211

Interesting chart Dem4Life1102 Dec 2020 #213

Agreed. I meant "some" to be indicator of lack of agreement. Thanks! usajumpedtheshark Dec 2020 #251

Only the present matters treestar Dec 2020 #175

A Fabulous post malaise Dec 2020 #7

Wasn't it something like less than 20 % even voted in her district? cwydro Dec 2020 #10

yes, and Biden got more votes in her distrct than her JI7 Dec 2020 #26

Thanks. Wasn't sure of the numbers. cwydro Dec 2020 #73

Listen to post 120 questionseverything Dec 2020 #130

It was the same voters with both elections on their ballots JI7 Dec 2020 #161

Highest turnout in cd history questionseverything Dec 2020 #178

No, there were some Democrats that got more votes than Biden JI7 Dec 2020 #183

Name one questionseverything Dec 2020 #187

Elissa Slotkin JI7 Dec 2020 #190

I didn't figure you to be anti pelosi questionseverything Dec 2020 #193

I'm very much for Pelosi which is why I'm glad for people like Slotkin JI7 Dec 2020 #194

Slotkin campaigned on not having pelosi for speaker questionseverything Dec 2020 #195

Whatever she needs to do to win. Her keeping the seat Democratic helps Pelosi remain Speaker JI7 Dec 2020 #196

She voted against pelosi today questionseverything Jan 2021 #257

She comes from a conservative district unlike AOC JI7 Jan 2021 #258

I just find it hypocritical questionseverything Jan 2021 #260

It's not hypocritical. Some people just understand politics JI7 Jan 2021 #263

and that she didn't have to run against a Republican treestar Dec 2020 #176

Why do you keep saying she never beat a Republican? mtnsnake Dec 2020 #185

She won the first election by winning the D primary treestar Dec 2020 #235

She does? Dem4Life1102 Dec 2020 #241

You could be right treestar Dec 2020 #249

Which clearly shows that her constituents weren't motivated to get rid of her. nt. Mariana Dec 2020 #191

This is a clickbait post and some who post in it will find trouble and not the good kind... Demsrule86 Dec 2020 #13

"Let's talk about AOC" is clickbait on a discussion board? panader0 Dec 2020 #16

... NurseJackie Dec 2020 #31

She ran against and defeated a long time Centrist. For some that was sacrilege. She was jalan48 Dec 2020 #19

The 'center' has drifted to the right for quite a while. panader0 Dec 2020 #20

Absolutely, and encouraging Bush/Cheney Republicans to join our Party will push us even further to jalan48 Dec 2020 #24

Yep, that started a while ago... WinstonSmith4740 Dec 2020 #75

We need to make room for AOC and others like her. Mike 03 Dec 2020 #22

Nice day for fishing. MrsCoffee Dec 2020 #23

She supports old men like Sanders send Ed Markey but thinks Pelosi needs to go JI7 Dec 2020 #29

+1000 AmericanCanuck Dec 2020 #110

Great post, however Dem4Life1102 Dec 2020 #33

Lulz! NurseJackie Dec 2020 #47

Wait. What? If she says the party needs new leadership then OF COURSE she's talking about Vivienne235729 Dec 2020 #147

Tom Perez maybe Dem4Life1102 Dec 2020 #150

I think She is Amazing... Grey5 Dec 2020 #34

I think she is a future Leader of the Democratic Party... kentuck Dec 2020 #37

Recommended. H2O Man Dec 2020 #39

That right there is a big part of it Bettie Dec 2020 #42

Me too! burrowowl Dec 2020 #69

Agree! mountain grammy Dec 2020 #84

Yep. And that triggers Republicans and Reagan Democrats. Hassin Bin Sober Dec 2020 #87

+1, uponit7771 Dec 2020 #135

sexism. pure and simple. mopinko Dec 2020 #44

I was about to say the same thing.. mountain grammy Dec 2020 #86

i keep trying to think of an equivalent male politician to compare to. mopinko Dec 2020 #94

Maybe Bernie? mountain grammy Dec 2020 #102

nah. mopinko Dec 2020 #113

H2O Man? H2O Man Dec 2020 #125

like i said- young. gotta be young. mopinko Dec 2020 #129

How is it sexism? George II Dec 2020 #218

it just is. mopinko Dec 2020 #219

I've seen similar comments said about men. George II Dec 2020 #232

whatevs. mopinko Dec 2020 #234

Since you introduced voting numbers, Joe Crowley got a higher % of votes in the 2016 election and... George II Dec 2020 #45

That's great! Still 78% and 71% isn't too bad is it? panader0 Dec 2020 #51

Great post Don1 Dec 2020 #49

That's not happening. Nobody here is doing that. NurseJackie Dec 2020 #64

Talented, young, charismatic, and pretty naieve. Happy Hoosier Dec 2020 #52

I think that's a pretty fair analysis. nt mtnsnake Dec 2020 #165

Since you ask, she supported subverting the 2016 primary from the majority, Hortensis Dec 2020 #54

Is this in code? rgbecker Dec 2020 #116

I often have that same question. demmiblue Dec 2020 #119

Let me clarify: In 2020 Trump/Repubs lied constantly that Hortensis Dec 2020 #140

+1000000000 betsuni Dec 2020 #167

It seemed exceedingly clear to me. Codeine Dec 2020 #144

Not if you speak English. MrsCoffee Dec 2020 #214

She can handle a little criticism, and sometimes it's hilarious housecat Dec 2020 #55

LOL. Are you bored today? Hekate Dec 2020 #57

My comments are my opinion here and may be risky. tiredtoo Dec 2020 #59

AOC is the future of the party and the future of America, and nothing will stop her or her cohorts. Fiendish Thingy Dec 2020 #61

Being a creature of deep left field, I want to see her remain as she is. I just ❤️ her style. Magoo48 Dec 2020 #90

I am very pro AOC. NRaleighLiberal Dec 2020 #62

Count me in as big supporter of AOC Viz Dec 2020 #65

Healthy Discussion Roy Rolling Dec 2020 #66

some seem to think she's the wrong kind of democrat, threat to the hegemony. KG Dec 2020 #67

I think some people have issues BainsBane Dec 2020 #70

Listen to post 120 and her list of first term accomplishments questionseverything Dec 2020 #133

Can you tell me BainsBane Dec 2020 #158

I was responding to your show horse insult questionseverything Dec 2020 #177

I think it's a stump speech BainsBane Dec 2020 #182

You won't find me insulting any democratic pols questionseverything Dec 2020 #188

Nor did I BainsBane Dec 2020 #189

People, and Democrats, look for accomplishments. That's all. You don't see similar comments about... George II Dec 2020 #71

"Ayanna Pressley" melman Dec 2020 #76

Yes I do remember that 1-1/2 year old OP of mine. I see you're still poring over... George II Dec 2020 #98

"What does Ayanna Pressley have to do with that ancient OP?" melman Dec 2020 #106

And you know that how? I think it's insulting that you're reading something into this.... George II Dec 2020 #115

+10,000 mtnsnake Dec 2020 #164

That is a year and a half old post. sheshe2 Dec 2020 #124

Yes. Infamous. melman Dec 2020 #149

I agreed it was the ugliest thread in DU history. sheshe2 Dec 2020 #152

You know perfectly well the context, meaning and intent of that thread melman Dec 2020 #154

I really don't, but then I am unable to read minds. sheshe2 Dec 2020 #157

Again, and you know that how? Funny how the thread was ugly but got 239 responses, 85 recs.... George II Dec 2020 #160

Don't go away mad.... MrsCoffee Dec 2020 #215

Intelligence includes an ability to temper tone-deafness bucolic_frolic Dec 2020 #74

Didn't she just lose her Energy & Commerce committee assignment?... SidDithers Dec 2020 #77

no, AOC was trying to get on it and lost to Rice (who ironically was one of the leading anti-Pelosi Celerity Dec 2020 #151

I appreciate her voice and courage. This is not a time to just "go along to get along." Evolve Dammit Dec 2020 #78

Nobody is suggesting that it is. NurseJackie Dec 2020 #217

plenty are wishing she would be quiet(er) Evolve Dammit Dec 2020 #230

Consider me a member of the Squad greblach Dec 2020 #79

I only disagree with this "even the Rs. They are essential workers after all." Escurumbele Dec 2020 #80

I think she's great. We need more like her. She tells it like it is. judesedit Dec 2020 #82

Excellent post. Agreed that AOC has some stuff to learn, but PatrickforO Dec 2020 #83

No one on DU should be bashing her...period. Chakaconcarne Dec 2020 #85

I don't bash AOC daily, but I do have mixed feelings about her Raven123 Dec 2020 #89

Yes the bashing zentrum Dec 2020 #91

I get upset by the aoc bashing sometimes too questionseverything Dec 2020 #242

Yes! You say it well. zentrum Dec 2020 #243

Agreed. The ignore feature is very useful. Tommymac Dec 2020 #244

Plus one questionseverything Dec 2020 #248

I've never bashed AOC FakeNoose Dec 2020 #95

That's true seta1950 Dec 2020 #99

Some people are liked because they make tweets liked by their followers AmericanCanuck Dec 2020 #103

. melman Dec 2020 #104

That's commendable. Good program. AmericanCanuck Dec 2020 #112

that's great BainsBane Dec 2020 #163

It was mentioned above that she has had no bills passed. panader0 Dec 2020 #105

Ok Dem4Life1102 Dec 2020 #120

"These accomplishments are not mine; they are all of ours" Post 120, TYVM! Alex4Martinez Dec 2020 #168

Bashing? Even mild critiques get a hide now. Codeine Dec 2020 #107

+1000 AmericanCanuck Dec 2020 #108

Whatever criticism that comes her way is fair and deserved... NurseJackie Dec 2020 #131

This is a forum to support Democrats. PTWB Dec 2020 #148

Yes .... and Democrats should support other Democrats instead of attacking them AmericanCanuck Dec 2020 #153

This is a forum. PTWB Dec 2020 #170

There is no anti-AOC faction AmericanCanuck Dec 2020 #256

A certain age/racial demographic seem to be the most put upon by her presence... demmiblue Dec 2020 #114

So now you're suggesting racism is at play? Seriously? "Uppity?" NOBODY SAYS THAT!! NOBODY!! NurseJackie Dec 2020 #132

This is the kind of shit that renders all conversations Codeine Dec 2020 #141

Hear hear AmericanCanuck Dec 2020 #155

I like her! Iggo Dec 2020 #126

I wish she would temper her anger and channel it better. I fully support her Vivienne235729 Dec 2020 #136

in regard to your final question: aidbo Dec 2020 #159

Fantastic post. AOC could likely be the Speaker of the House sometime in the future, although mtnsnake Dec 2020 #162

she keeps talking about leaving politics though BainsBane Dec 2020 #198

It won't be the end of the world either way, whether she stays or leaves mtnsnake Dec 2020 #224

This message was self-deleted by its author BainsBane Dec 2020 #225

No, the job has nothing to do with personal politics or "fighting." betsuni Dec 2020 #202

I like her overall MustLoveBeagles Dec 2020 #171

She's never won an election against a Republican treestar Dec 2020 #172

This is more or less how I feel BannonsLiver Dec 2020 #180

Didn't she just beat Republican challenger John Cummings? mtnsnake Dec 2020 #181

Have you ever lived in a blue city? BainsBane Dec 2020 #200

Are you suggesting that AOC deserves no credit for trouncing John Cummings? mtnsnake Dec 2020 #222

It means she doesn't have experience winning BainsBane Dec 2020 #223

I understand what you're saying, but it's not her fault that she doesn't have mtnsnake Dec 2020 #226

They likely wouldn't win in a swing district BainsBane Dec 2020 #227

That could be the case mtnsnake Dec 2020 #228

In 2018 Dem4Life1102 Dec 2020 #229

that's impressive BainsBane Dec 2020 #231

If she wasn't on the map already, that victory helped to put her on it mtnsnake Dec 2020 #233

Not much treestar Dec 2020 #237

She was primaried this year Dem4Life1102 Dec 2020 #238

Ok, forgot that treestar Dec 2020 #239

Guess that depends on your perspective Dem4Life1102 Dec 2020 #240

Maybe but she won in 2018 by winning the D primary treestar Dec 2020 #236

she has won two elections against Republicans Celerity Dec 2020 #184

She is fierce. And she is a threat. Autumn Dec 2020 #179

I would hope people would read up on the subject matter before talking. rgbecker Dec 2020 #186

+1000. Special interests pay people to troll internet sites so Im not surprised to see posts diva77 Dec 2020 #192

+1000 Celerity Dec 2020 #201

This is a fact. It takes time to learn to spot them. Tommymac Dec 2020 #245

They are not that hard to spot mtnsnake Dec 2020 #252

I can't think of anything she said that I disagree with. egduj Dec 2020 #197

Dead on Pander0 denbot Dec 2020 #199

I wish Senator Wellstone's life had not ended as quickly as it did. We have allowed the GOP to usajumpedtheshark Dec 2020 #205

Uusally if one discovers a celestial oject it gets names after them. Tommymac Dec 2020 #246

You were close. According to an article in Business Insider, it was named after her usajumpedtheshark Dec 2020 #250

Seems to me that too many here are spending time Lunabell Dec 2020 #208

Seems to me too many have been spending time bashing Democrats betsuni Dec 2020 #210

Seems to me you hit the nail on the head mtnsnake Dec 2020 #220

AOC is like the kindly grandchild who buys stuff from Amazon Roisin Ni Fiachra Dec 2020 #212

And...you're a confused but grateful octogenarian in your scenario? Hortensis Dec 2020 #221

I don't bash her publicly coolhandlulu Dec 2020 #216

'Disrespectful of elders' has been used in the past to hide a lot of nastiness. Tommymac Dec 2020 #247

+100000000 Celerity Jan 2021 #261

The "elders" in charge today have fucked us over and led to the current ruin of our country today ansible Jan 2021 #262