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Locrian

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30. fail

Sun Oct 7, 2012, 07:24 PM

Oct 2012

We have failed to evolve to the point were we (as humans) realize we are a part of out environment, and need to work together.

The 'rugged individual' will not save the planet - it's going to take a new consciousness that we do not possess.

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"We are in a planetary emergency." [View all] MindMover Oct 2012 OP

No one cares davidn3600 Oct 2012 #1

I do. I think quite a few others do as well. Live and Learn Oct 2012 #26

No, I think we are the majority.... daleanime Oct 2012 #88

I think it has more to do with basic human psychology.... tex-wyo-dem Oct 2012 #44

I absolutely agree. defacto7 Oct 2012 #99

The story of Easter Island demonstrates, on a small scale, closeupready Oct 2012 #105

Wrong. Plenty of people care. Zoeisright Oct 2012 #47

The problem is Dems aren't really doing one god damned thing about it, either. villager Oct 2012 #52

A $90 billion investment is not nothing. LiberalAndProud Oct 2012 #72

It's not bad, but we know that a many-years-off investment in some green technologies... villager Oct 2012 #87

Let's set the record straight. The large part of the money went for energy efficiency JDPriestly Oct 2012 #96

I didn't read the CSMonitor as critical. LiberalAndProud Oct 2012 #101

It will pay off. There is no alternative to green energy. None. JDPriestly Oct 2012 #112

Green energy will not save the day. abumbyanyothername Oct 2012 #136

We will downsize and rely on green energy for what we can get. I understand that. JDPriestly Oct 2012 #143

Most of those people don't have deep pockets and an army of lobbyists working for them. Selatius Oct 2012 #68

It is not true. Plaid Adder Oct 2012 #48

Not true RoccoR5955 Oct 2012 #51

Most of us care. Le Taz Hot Oct 2012 #59

I think you are right. Bohunk68 Oct 2012 #81

Many care, but not enough to get out in the streets with Occupy to Zorra Oct 2012 #69

bravo!! Duppers Oct 2012 #74

I've been on strike for a decade tama Oct 2012 #113

Actually I think its normalcy bias with most people Ya Basta Oct 2012 #75

Insurance companies care. n/t 2on2u Oct 2012 #78

Yes, their data keepers as well as the DOD know the dangers and have prepared for them. freshwest Oct 2012 #89

I care so much it is my number one issue. Chemisse Oct 2012 #82

mine too stuntcat Oct 2012 #85

I don't like where all this is going, but...... AverageJoe90 Oct 2012 #118

It's not that no one cares thetonka Oct 2012 #94

The people who care abumbyanyothername Oct 2012 #135

And it does help that, to quote the article... Speck Tater Oct 2012 #2

Yes, Psychopathic Capitalism and the Corporate Media MindMover Oct 2012 #3

Corporations killed us all, in the end. We, the people were not strong enough, nor smart enough. N/T AAO Oct 2012 #34

Yeah but we got alotta cheap shit & cool gadgets! CrispyQ Oct 2012 #83

You won't see a ton of comments to this I bet Iwasthere Oct 2012 #4

What is there to say? LiberalAndProud Oct 2012 #7

How about huge panels or tarps to trap sunlight ... MindMover Oct 2012 #11

We're trying to convert to solar. LiberalAndProud Oct 2012 #12

We put Rover on Mars, We can save this planet ... MindMover Oct 2012 #16

Can be and will be are two different things. LiberalAndProud Oct 2012 #21

The religious second coming argument is becoming less MindMover Oct 2012 #23

I want to live where you live. LiberalAndProud Oct 2012 #42

This is one of the better articles on the subject ... MindMover Oct 2012 #63

I'm not convinced. LiberalAndProud Oct 2012 #65

Thankfully I am not trying nor do I have to convince you ... MindMover Oct 2012 #67

There is also this: LiberalAndProud Oct 2012 #70

same here, L&P Duppers Oct 2012 #79

I imagine that when it comes to religion, we hear what better validates our biases. LanternWaste Oct 2012 #93

I understand LanternWaste. LiberalAndProud Oct 2012 #98

Same thing goes for the "We Can't Fix The Climate Problem!" crap..... AverageJoe90 Oct 2012 #127

Better get on it then... marions ghost Oct 2012 #39

If extra electricity could be sold, they would csziggy Oct 2012 #49

Again, money. That requires a huge investment in infrastructure. LiberalAndProud Oct 2012 #61

It's not just about landlords not bothering thetonka Oct 2012 #95

Time to storm city hall? LiberalAndProud Oct 2012 #100

Paint the rooftops white Bluestar Oct 2012 #102

Cease big box stores and their black humungo parking lots. glinda Oct 2012 #107

I think of this every day Auggie Oct 2012 #27

I don't see it as an emergency because there is no urgent intervention that could stop it slackmaster Oct 2012 #5

But it didn't have to be that way. GreenPartyVoter Oct 2012 #8

If you can explain how we can go back in time and make it didn't happen slackmaster Oct 2012 #9

We wait for the last of the Humpback whales to die, and for GreenPartyVoter Oct 2012 #17

PBMUS = Please Beam Me Up Scotty ... MindMover Oct 2012 #28

Yes, please! GreenPartyVoter Oct 2012 #33

that's right stuntcat Oct 2012 #86

As is Fukishima, "because there is no urgent intervention that could stop it" dixiegrrrrl Oct 2012 #25

The science seriously disagrees with you, slackmaster. AverageJoe90 Oct 2012 #120

I fully understand that it is TECHNICALLY possible, and even believe the USA could do its share slackmaster Oct 2012 #141

Sadly, you may be correct on this. AverageJoe90 Oct 2012 #144

It is a human emergency, not a planetary emergency Agnosticsherbet Oct 2012 #6

We could accidentally Venu-form the atmosphere. The Doctor. Oct 2012 #10

Such things have happened before... Agnosticsherbet Oct 2012 #103

Not even close. AverageJoe90 Oct 2012 #121

Ummm.... really? The Doctor. Oct 2012 #146

We may not know all the specifics, but we do know...... AverageJoe90 Oct 2012 #147

So, you're certain something can't happen, The Doctor. Oct 2012 #148

The truth is, I'm being realistic, Doc. AverageJoe90 Oct 2012 #149

Did you miss my qualifications? The Doctor. Oct 2012 #150

I absolutely did not. AverageJoe90 Oct 2012 #151

Can you explain why Mercury is cooler than Venus? The Doctor. Oct 2012 #152

I didn't say what you thought I said re: Venus. AverageJoe90 Oct 2012 #153

Fair enough. The Doctor. Oct 2012 #154

Obviously, the planet's ecosystem doesn't need us. TahitiNut Oct 2012 #14

If you don't love yourself tama Oct 2012 #41

We shit where we eat. TahitiNut Oct 2012 #43

I don't tama Oct 2012 #58

This message was self-deleted by its author Duppers Oct 2012 #80

Very true. AverageJoe90 Oct 2012 #122

The planet is neither alive nor sentient... Agnosticsherbet Oct 2012 #104

AMEN MindMover Oct 2012 #110

You know that how? tama Oct 2012 #114

There is no current scientific theory of life that fits the planet itself as living. Agnosticsherbet Oct 2012 #128

Do you have evidence Mars is not sentient? tama Oct 2012 #129

I have seen no scientific theory or evidence... Agnosticsherbet Oct 2012 #130

It may be testable tama Oct 2012 #132

Adaptation and evolution are a species wide biological action. A single member of the species... Agnosticsherbet Oct 2012 #133

I believe tama Oct 2012 #134

What data in the experiment would be validating factors. Agnosticsherbet Oct 2012 #137

Horticulture (growing plants) tama Oct 2012 #139

Nah, we won't go extinct. We've survived a lot worse than this. AverageJoe90 Oct 2012 #124

Thank you, 2000 Supreme Court and George W. Bush AZ Progressive Oct 2012 #13

I doubt that Al Gore could have had any real influence on the bigger fossil fuel picture slackmaster Oct 2012 #15

It is the very probably true. And Jesus said to GOD,"Forgive them they know not what they do." The Wielding Truth Oct 2012 #32

If the country had listened to Jimmy Carter in 1977 csziggy Oct 2012 #50

Very good point RoccoR5955 Oct 2012 #53

No one wants to be the one to tell Americans they have to cut back their lifestyles. CrispyQ Oct 2012 #84

History is going to look at America very badly AZ Progressive Oct 2012 #97

Nice article. AverageJoe90 Oct 2012 #18

Peter Sinclair runs Climate Denial Crock of the Week bananas Oct 2012 #62

I'm a fan of his. AverageJoe90 Oct 2012 #71

Same username at youtube and twitter and du bananas Oct 2012 #73

Thanks. nt =) AverageJoe90 Oct 2012 #123

We need a collective mass movement to address the climate emergency. limpyhobbler Oct 2012 #19

Collectively we have the power ... "We the People" MindMover Oct 2012 #20

Yes. Education and action. limpyhobbler Oct 2012 #22

Thank you for your continued resistance to The Psychopathic Machine ... MindMover Oct 2012 #66

K&R silverweb Oct 2012 #24

Yup, but don't talk about that Pharaoh Oct 2012 #29

fail Locrian Oct 2012 #30

The new consciousness is here ... MindMover Oct 2012 #31

An excellent point. davidthegnome Oct 2012 #36

We will, but...... AverageJoe90 Oct 2012 #126

Interestingly I just watched a Nat Geo Documentary Savannahmann Oct 2012 #35

It is very common Danmel Oct 2012 #45

It is insane isn't it? Savannahmann Oct 2012 #76

Well, regardless of what you may THINK, Savannah, I KNOW for a fact..... AverageJoe90 Oct 2012 #125

I saw that too. progressoid Oct 2012 #46

So sad. "Psychopathic Capitalism" is right - not even our own... polichick Oct 2012 #37

One of the big scientific questions mick063 Oct 2012 #38

Methane turn over. Anybody remember the BP oil spill in Spring of 2010? DhhD Oct 2012 #40

We still need NASA RoccoR5955 Oct 2012 #55

Lots of people care, but far too few care enough to do anything. Kennah Oct 2012 #54

Consuming less would be a start RoccoR5955 Oct 2012 #56

I've had this conversation with the wife Kennah Oct 2012 #111

Not everyone. Not by near. tama Oct 2012 #115

EMP the planet HeeBGBz Oct 2012 #57

It's like our house is on fire Canuckistanian Oct 2012 #60

That toilet paper thing is pretty important to me. nt ZombieHorde Oct 2012 #108

I like it too tama Oct 2012 #117

Not to mention that...... AverageJoe90 Oct 2012 #119

we're a suicidal species laruemtt Oct 2012 #64

Not species tama Oct 2012 #116

god help us cilla4progress Oct 2012 #77

HELLO ruffburr Oct 2012 #90

DAMN! And I thought American MSM sucked. robertpaulsen Oct 2012 #91

Corporate Media and Psychopathic Capitalism .... MindMover Oct 2012 #92

K&R n/t glinda Oct 2012 #106

Oh well. Easy come, easy go. nt ZombieHorde Oct 2012 #109

No, We're Not! ProfessorGAC Oct 2012 #131

The problem isn't really apathy Spike89 Oct 2012 #138

We do: tama Oct 2012 #140

Fascinating links, thanks nt Spike89 Oct 2012 #145

And you get TWO chances to vote kenny blankenship Oct 2012 #142