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In reply to the discussion: '$2,000 Means $2,000: Ocasio-Cortez Says $1,400 Payments in Biden Plan Fall Short of Promised Relief [View all]Pachamama
(16,887 posts)1. I disagree with her argument
Sure it would be great to have $2000 go out on top of the $600....but I think that will be harder to get passed than keeping the promise that was made (and encouraged by Trump) for $2000 - as in a total of $2000.
I think that there will more packages in the future and she should also be focused on the whole package and its value that Biden's economic team has laid out.
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'$2,000 Means $2,000: Ocasio-Cortez Says $1,400 Payments in Biden Plan Fall Short of Promised Relief [View all]
turbinetree
Jan 2021
OP
We have the senate and zero interest rates, the error should be on the side of giving too much
uponit7771
Jan 2021
#12
The $600.00 is included so you are wrong, but I take notice of the attacks on Biden before he
Demsrule86
Jan 2021
#16
We can only get what Congress will pass...and 600 of the 2000 went out around the same time.
Demsrule86
Jan 2021
#44
That's not what is being discussed. And how is what Biden actually said an attack on him?
Autumn
Jan 2021
#49
A legalistic argument which I already addressed so all the links in the world won't change the
Demsrule86
Jan 2021
#53
Sorry I can't speak to what you addressed, I don't read your posts past the first glance or sentence
Autumn
Jan 2021
#69
Then I fail to see the reason to continue any conversation on this matter. Have a nice day.
Demsrule86
Jan 2021
#89
Biden said that on Dec. 28, only a few hours after the $600 stimulus was signed and before a single
beastie boy
Jan 2021
#48
You are correct. But the discussion is what Biden had to say. I'll let Biden prove you wrong.
Autumn
Jan 2021
#60
You are wrong. He was slamming the Republican debate over the stimulus while people
Autumn
Jan 2021
#85
Read the OP subject line, "....$1400 falls short", but apparently it didn't fall short....
George II
Jan 2021
#209
I did. And to get to $2000 after $600 has already gone out, send an additional $1400....
George II
Jan 2021
#212
Yes, he's correct, $600 is not enough and we need $2000, which means we need an additional $1400....
George II
Jan 2021
#221
That's your math George. Joe didn't pass, Joe didn't sign a $600 stimulus. READ his tweet
Autumn
Jan 2021
#222
I've now read it (from you) three or four times, losing count. It's not my math, it's THE math!
George II
Jan 2021
#224
And you are going to get it again when you respond to me in this thread. Read. Joe. Biden's. Tweet.
Autumn
Jan 2021
#225
I did. And to get to $2000 after $600 has already gone out, send an additional $1400....
George II
Jan 2021
#213
That was before the $600 checks "went out the door". Yes, both Warnock and Ossoff AND AOC (!!!).....
George II
Jan 2021
#187
Morality is a separate issue. But I must say this it is always immoral to allow Republicans to win
Demsrule86
Jan 2021
#47
We had six years of nothing and then they did it again in 14. I well remember the attacks on Obama.
Demsrule86
Jan 2021
#50
We could have had a public option the last five or so years...it breaks my heart to think
Demsrule86
Jan 2021
#91
This was sent before the $600.00 dollar checks were sent...clearly $2000. was the figure.
Demsrule86
Jan 2021
#56
They did understand the $600 vs. $2000, and she stated so less than three weeks ago....
George II
Jan 2021
#180
Nope Biden said $600 is simply not enough.We need $2,000 stimulus checks. Read his tweet
Autumn
Jan 2021
#218
How about this back on December 27. Even SHE was in favor of adding to $600 to make it $2000 total.
George II
Jan 2021
#176
So when it was Tlaib and her idea it was fine. Now that it's Biden's it's not good enough. SMDH!
George II
Jan 2021
#183
I'm sure AOC will get excoriated here for not towing the party line verbatim but...
jcgoldie
Jan 2021
#11
You are not going to push a 50 50 congress with at least six moderate to conservative Democrats
Demsrule86
Jan 2021
#64
Really, where have I heard this argument before...oh when we lost the House in 10 and the
Demsrule86
Jan 2021
#92
Yes they do...there is no such thing as constructive criticism at this time. We have a razor thin
Demsrule86
Jan 2021
#168
Well I have a Gay daughter and my fear is the GOP gets back in because Democrats end up
Demsrule86
Jan 2021
#167
First of all this 'push' is likely to achieve nothing for the unemployed and our economy...we
Demsrule86
Jan 2021
#67
why is it counterproductive? The politics fits the republicans' objections to even this amount
bigtree
Jan 2021
#164
Can you, or AOC, cite Biden proposing a $2000 stimulus IN ADDITION to $600 already passed?
beastie boy
Jan 2021
#18
That is correct...and I am so angry that our side would attack Biden this way...we may very
Demsrule86
Jan 2021
#68
claiming posters on a message board are trying to upset Biden for expecting more $ is ludicrous
bigtree
Jan 2021
#51
conversely, the effect of your 'advocacy' would/will be the paltry $1400. additional
bigtree
Jan 2021
#70
If you think republicans can't be pushed further, there's no real point in your advocacy
bigtree
Jan 2021
#104
No one said that is yours or anyone else's motive but attacking Biden on the right and the left
Demsrule86
Jan 2021
#108
the debate is on the proposal in Congress, not on Biden who can't appropriate the money himself
bigtree
Jan 2021
#119
Fortunately, I live in the real world.... And so do most of our elected representatives...
NurseJackie
Jan 2021
#158
The bill was signed into law December 27, late at night. Biden's spoke on December 28, early
beastie boy
Jan 2021
#65
Well now we know. Now we all know. Time to people get back to work and stop trying...
NurseJackie
Jan 2021
#79
The language can only be called "loose" if you ignore the context and the timing of the speech.
beastie boy
Jan 2021
#103
And now she knows. Now EVERYONE knows. Whatever the (ahem) "misunderstanding" was...
NurseJackie
Jan 2021
#97
AOC was wrong here, but I think Biden should have made it clearer, his checks would be an addition
dustyscamp
Jan 2021
#101
You are correct, the cheques were said to be for 2000 usd over and over well AFTER
Celerity
Jan 2021
#138
Sorry, that's not correct. Here is what was said after the bill was signed by trump....
George II
Jan 2021
#205
you are once again wrong, as I definitely showed in a series of posts to you in another thread
Celerity
Jan 2021
#217
"Ocasio-Cortez Says $1,400 Payments in BIDEN Plan Fall Short of Promised Relief"
OnDoutside
Jan 2021
#78
Pelosi just called it the Covid Relief Package, it's not that hard if you want to not kick your
OnDoutside
Jan 2021
#84
Looks like it. This is from the WaPo article that Commondreams took it from
OnDoutside
Jan 2021
#112
Well lets consider doing politics in a new way. I can't call our politics of the last 20 years
Demsrule86
Jan 2021
#109
Me neither, but that doesn't mean representatives shouldn't use their pulpit to call
liskddksil
Jan 2021
#153
If we divide...over things Biden can't pass which is what happened with Obama...we will
Demsrule86
Jan 2021
#166
That's absurd. The entire point of the last debate was to increase the $600 to $2000
Blasphemer
Jan 2021
#121
Biden had nothing to do with the $600. That was the repubs that gave us that instead of the $1200.
panader0
Jan 2021
#122
We all knew was going to be 1400. She knew, because when she wrote something up it included the 600
LizBeth
Jan 2021
#129
She also said this the day trump signed the bill containing the $600 payment less than 3 wks ago:
George II
Jan 2021
#175
I think you're correct, and it looks like it has come to an end. Facts rule!
George II
Jan 2021
#207
I WOULD RATHER the $600 she & others are dithering about go to unemployed and underployed, people
Kashkakat v.2.0
Jan 2021
#196
I've had some of my more whacky friends on social media bitch about this too.
Music Man
Jan 2021
#206
Okay, I'm going to get hate here but my thought was Biden meant a full $2000.00. This $600 was 1
PA_jen
Jan 2021
#226
That $600 was on Republicans, and Trump, they were getting a lot of flack, people hurting
Autumn
Jan 2021
#228
You're correct. That's what he meant. And even AOC and Tlaib meant $2000, too.....
George II
Jan 2021
#229
Okay Bernie agrees. When I saw Biden's tweet I took it as a full $2,000 beside the $600.
PA_jen
Jan 2021
#242
Someone put it all together in one tweet. This should clear up the discussion:
George II
Jan 2021
#237
So she understood ALL ALONG that the total benefit would be $2000 ($600 + $1400)...
NurseJackie
Jan 2021
#240