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25. quite clearly DJT was a (historic) stain on this country's

Sun Jan 24, 2021, 05:08 PM

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honor, integrity and credibility. I contend that the fault for that tragic occurrence belongs at least as much to the "American voter" -- as it does to political system under which it happened (i.e., the EC).

(I make the same argument about the UK and Brexit -- with of course separate drivers, scope and consequence)

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A Wyoming senator has 67 times more voting power per constituent than a California senator. [View all] Towlie Jan 2021 OP

And it is getting worse and worse due to population changes. Norm Ornstein writes a lot about this. servermsh Jan 2021 #1

Or 1 senator for every 3 million people. rickyhall Jan 2021 #2

This makes a lot of sense wackadoo wabbit Jan 2021 #32

I wish we could change this but the system is rigged. Nt spooky3 Jan 2021 #3

Sounds like a recipe for gridlock hack89 Jan 2021 #4

This is why Mme. Defarge Jan 2021 #5

The electoral college needs to go Hav Jan 2021 #6

Essentially Pantagruel Jan 2021 #7

TRUE it did begin to protect the wealthy and some of those owned slaves... BUT TigressDem Jan 2021 #18

Senate is probably superfluous Pantagruel Jan 2021 #22

NO it is checks and balances. TigressDem Jan 2021 #24

Reverse Citz. United Pantagruel Jan 2021 #38

They have 1/50th power in Senate. Same as every other state. TigressDem Jan 2021 #40

Now virtually impossible Pantagruel Jan 2021 #45

we don't equal representation by any measure Demovictory9 Jan 2021 #34

This is why Mme. Defarge Jan 2021 #8

Mmmm. I'd say that the confidence in the "majority of Americans voters" stopdiggin Jan 2021 #17

C'est vrai, Mme. Defarge Jan 2021 #19

We have 4 years to win their confidence back. TigressDem Jan 2021 #23

quite clearly DJT was a (historic) stain on this country's stopdiggin Jan 2021 #25

WELL, WE DO have to really BE more than VOTERS. Hard to think of the best way, sometimes. TigressDem Jan 2021 #26

LETTING a Tyrant become pRes or a Doofus who can't put full sentences together shreds confidence. TigressDem Jan 2021 #20

No. mahatmakanejeeves Jan 2021 #9

Sounds fair but Rethugs will say Wyoming has 67X antelope than CA... KY_EnviroGuy Jan 2021 #10

well, the greens, dem socialists, libertarians and independants stopdiggin Jan 2021 #11

With your proposal, what is the reason to even have a Senate at all? MichMan Jan 2021 #12

We need about a quarter million Californians to retire in Wyoming gulliver Jan 2021 #13

Checks and balances. Each State gets 2 Senators and then House is calculated by population. TigressDem Jan 2021 #14

I prefer a parliamentary system but that ship sailed about 240 years ago. BannonsLiver Jan 2021 #15

No. Deb Jan 2021 #16

K&R, Similar with electoral votes. California needs to sue for more EVs !!!! uponit7771 Jan 2021 #21

This reality is a real failure of our constitution Buckeyeblue Jan 2021 #27

Adding more states would be far easier Rstrstx Jan 2021 #28

Those 3 plus American Samoa and the Northern Mariana Islands. marie999 Jan 2021 #30

DC would take a constitutional amendment. former9thward Jan 2021 #37

If that's true Turin_C3PO Jan 2021 #41

The Post link mentioned the constitutional legal argument. former9thward Jan 2021 #47

Senators have a history of voting for things that are unConstitutional Polybius Jan 2021 #48

So essentially a unicameral legislature Cuthbert Allgood Jan 2021 #29

the argument you are making is exactly why The House of Representatives exists Takket Jan 2021 #31

Yes, or to put it another way, democracy is why the house exists, and Hortensis Jan 2021 #43

I think we need to look at the Senate body as a whole and not just CA vs. WY. Kaleva Jan 2021 #33

Expand the size of the House and weaken the Senate. roamer65 Jan 2021 #35

Many countries have an upper House that isn't "fair" in the context of one-man one-vote... brooklynite Jan 2021 #36

Two senators for each state. MineralMan Jan 2021 #39

Among the fundamental flaws in our democratic system that likely will destroy this republic Yeehah Jan 2021 #42

Weight their votes. snort Jan 2021 #44

A Wyoming resident has 67 times more Senate voting power than a Californian. lagomorph777 Jan 2021 #46

We're stuck with the system we have in place forever Polybius Jan 2021 #49