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sarge43

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55. Why?

Sat Mar 20, 2021, 10:27 AM

Mar 2021

Agree with you concerning discharged veterans. They're civilians and subject to civil law.
However, any of them subject to the UCMJ, Article 2 can be charged with violation of Article 94, mutiny or sedition which includes insurrection.

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Congressman calls for service members, veterans who stormed the Capitol to be stripped of benefits [View all] AZProgressive Mar 2021 OP

Absofuckingloutely! SheltieLover Mar 2021 #1

+111111111111111111111111111 sheshe2 Mar 2021 #6

Hi She! SheltieLover Mar 2021 #8

Hey Sheltie. sheshe2 Mar 2021 #13

Yup, with full prosecutions to the max! SheltieLover Mar 2021 #16

Yes. sheshe2 Mar 2021 #20

Indeed! SheltieLover Mar 2021 #28

They already will if they get a felony. jimfields33 Mar 2021 #27

Not necessarily true. Tommymac Mar 2021 #82

Interesting. I guess it's not cut and dry. jimfields33 Mar 2021 #85

He's absolutely right FoxNewsSucks Mar 2021 #2

addition to that : recalled and put on trial , stripped of rank and bennies . AllaN01Bear Mar 2021 #3

This!👆 SheltieLover Mar 2021 #9

If I may add. sheshe2 Mar 2021 #26

Yes! SheltieLover Mar 2021 #29

Yes! Any poor soul who gets caught smoking pot in the army gets tossed out and loses everything Walleye Mar 2021 #4

That is exactly what should happen. madaboutharry Mar 2021 #5

Sounds reasonable to me. lpbk2713 Mar 2021 #7

Kickin' with gusto! Faux pas Mar 2021 #10

Yes. sheshe2 Mar 2021 #11

Yes! Ananda62 Mar 2021 #12

Thank you for your -- continuing -- service, Rep. Gallego Hekate Mar 2021 #14

At the very least. 2naSalit Mar 2021 #15

I said this two months ago kimbutgar Mar 2021 #17

This!👆 SheltieLover Mar 2021 #30

Any "lifers" should lose their pensions ...they are traitors ashredux Mar 2021 #18

Pensions to,... yes.... magicarpet Mar 2021 #86

Sir, yes, SIR Leghorn21 Mar 2021 #19

I prefer they be recalled and handled in the military court system. But stripping them of PrinceHakeem Mar 2021 #21

If you commit a felony your benefits can be reduced AZProgressive Mar 2021 #22

Reduced, but completely taken away? Especially if you saw battle... I just don't PrinceHakeem Mar 2021 #23

I don't think it is. nt Phoenix61 Mar 2021 #25

If they were wounded in combat... Enter stage left Mar 2021 #33

Those people are TRAITORS to the oaths they swore. What do you think should happen to niyad Mar 2021 #64

They should enlist in the Russian army. AZ8theist Mar 2021 #88

Welcome to our DU family. niyad Mar 2021 #62

I get why this feels like the right thing to do but Phoenix61 Mar 2021 #24

Yes but this is different. We are talking about sedition and treason. Irish_Dem Mar 2021 #47

The law doesn't change based on our feelings. Phoenix61 Mar 2021 #51

I beg to differ, laws are changed based upon popular sentiment all the time. Irish_Dem Mar 2021 #63

Exactly, they are changed through legislation. Phoenix61 Mar 2021 #68

I entered into service with the understanding I'd have schooling paid for, i.e., the G.I. Bill. Ligyron Mar 2021 #75

Yes, why do people want more than just the usual criminal penalties? treestar Mar 2021 #72

Charges alone wont do it, if you spend more than 60 days in jail or prison it could affect benefits Shanti Shanti Shanti Mar 2021 #31

I hope we hear more about this effort msfiddlestix Mar 2021 #32

The veteran household couldn't agree more. KewlKat Mar 2021 #34

Standing ovation from this veteran. soldierant Mar 2021 #36

K&R for the sentiment, but veterans are civilians, not active duty military. Civilians possess UTUSN Mar 2021 #35

Absolutely.... but any congress member proven to have been involved should get no less..... usaf-vet Mar 2021 #37

... Lucinda Mar 2021 #38

Start with T***p. Baked Potato Mar 2021 #39

But this could hurt innocent family members, such as long-term-care benefits for widows, Liberty Belle Mar 2021 #40

+1 North Shore Chicago Mar 2021 #45

+100 nitpicker Mar 2021 #84

If active duty, they should be court martialed. nt SunSeeker Mar 2021 #41

They should be. Solly Mack Mar 2021 #42

Can that actually be done? druidity33 Mar 2021 #43

I don't think it can be done. Solly Mack Mar 2021 #56

VA follows the law as to who gets and loses benefits. Congress would have to change the laws. Kaleva Mar 2021 #44

Absolutely right. Owl Mar 2021 #46

Yes beemerphill Mar 2021 #48

NOT ENOUGH!!!!!!!! Grins Mar 2021 #49

I get it. But as a liberal, borderline anarchist Vet, it's a bad idea. marble falls Mar 2021 #50

Why? sarge43 Mar 2021 #55

Active duty personel is a whole different thing. When you and I enlisted we signed away ... marble falls Mar 2021 #61

Hell yes. nt Hotler Mar 2021 #52

This retired Zoomer stands with you, sir. sarge43 Mar 2021 #53

This old AF K9 handler agrees wholeheartedly Handler Mar 2021 #54

Welcome to our DU family. niyad Mar 2021 #67

My two cents for what it is worth..... NHvet Mar 2021 #57

Needs to apply to police as well. we can do it Mar 2021 #58

Absolutely! Rebl2 Mar 2021 #59

The same should be done to every Congress person who supported the insurrection in any way, Martin68 Mar 2021 #60

THIS malaise Mar 2021 #65

I love this suggestion! I especially love how it will really hurt these people and be a huge liberalla Mar 2021 #66

Now that is a good plan. Swede Mar 2021 #69

this llashram Mar 2021 #70

Forward this idea to our Reps. Handler Mar 2021 #71

Active duty and reserve insurrectionists should already be in Leavenworth. pecosbob Mar 2021 #73

actions have consequences demtenjeep Mar 2021 #74

Until actions have consequences this shit will continue. This is a good idea. Evolve Dammit Mar 2021 #76

The Constitution does not allow that. former9thward Mar 2021 #77

I do not think that the details of a veteran's retirement benefits should be changed ex post facto. mahatmakanejeeves Mar 2021 #78

Not only because they absolutely deserve this ToxMarz Mar 2021 #79

They should be they're Cha Mar 2021 #80

Sure hope this includes Michael Flynn CanonRay Mar 2021 #81

I disagree with this. If you want to charge them with a crime, then charge and convict them. Calista241 Mar 2021 #83

Any government employee should be, in my opinion. BobTheSubgenius Mar 2021 #87