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Doc Sportello

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20. Other experts disagree
Sun May 16, 2021, 09:33 AM
May 2021

Such as former Baltimore Health Commissioner Leana Wen:
"being able to tell people you can get vaccinated, throw away the mask, is a powerful incentive for a lot of individuals. The problem, though, is that only works if it's coupled with some kind of proof of vaccination because if you only have the honor code, you've got some big potential problems here. People who don't want to get vaccinated could just stop wearing masks."

and

"I think what the CDC could have done was to lay out a road map and get us to this ultimate destination through smaller steps. There are actually two really key missing intermediate steps. One is to say fully vaccinated people can be around one another in formal settings. So that paves the way for employers to say, hey, if you're vaccinated, you can come back into the office, be in this conference room together. We can take off our masks, no distancing. It paves the way for restaurants, theaters to say if there's proof of vaccination, we can be here at full capacity. And then the CDC could say once we achieve a societal level of vaccination, whatever that may be, 60%, 70%, then we can remove indoor masking mandates and social distancing. That would have been something for people to look forward to. That would have added an incentive. It also would have been less abrupt because this was so sudden that businesses, local health officials are really reeling because what the CDC essentially did yesterday was to eliminate masking and social distancing for everyone and to make it optional."

https://www.npr.org/2021/05/14/996760419/how-do-we-know-whether-people-without-masks-indoors-are-vaccinated

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yes, we KNOW how effective the vaccines are Skittles May 2021 #1
For those of us vaccinated Karma13612 May 2021 #18
While you do, so won't many of the unvaxed boston bean May 2021 #25
I dont understand your comment. vanlassie May 2021 #33
My beef is with the CDC boston bean May 2021 #34
Agree. I'm concerned for the unvaccinated and especially... Kahuna May 2021 #41
easy to do when we actually care about others Skittles May 2021 #42
It's a little soon to say, the heck with those who aren't yet vaccinated. nt Kahuna May 2021 #44
I care about the people who have to take care of those sick folk Skittles May 2021 #45
This Kahuna May 2021 #46
How can it be an incentive for more vaccinations if anyone can just say their vaccinated? SunSeeker May 2021 #2
just wear your mask a little longer..it's the only way you can protect you... diverdownjt May 2021 #5
No... the vaccine is "the way that you can protect you" FBaggins May 2021 #10
Because there are still people Dorian Gray May 2021 #13
That 36 is going to rise quickly... lame54 May 2021 #30
Problem is, the rate of vaccination dropped like a rock after the J&J vaccine pause. SunSeeker May 2021 #32
This message was self-deleted by its author ronlyons May 2021 #3
Honestly, I thought that once 55+ were vaccinated (or refused the option of vaccination) in a state, ronlyons May 2021 #4
Your opinion isn't informed by science DesertRat May 2021 #28
strange how you fail to mention the COMPLETE LACK OF LEADERSHIP from the top Skittles May 2021 #43
I agree. I see more people wearing masks in JoanofArgh May 2021 #6
Reverse psychology... lame54 May 2021 #31
I'll be wearing my mask a little while longer when around groups 2naSalit May 2021 #7
We still have an indoor mask mandate in New York Dorian Gray May 2021 #14
Most states no longer have it. cinematicdiversions May 2021 #23
Yikes.... Dorian Gray May 2021 #26
Arizona has never had a state wide mandate DesertRat May 2021 #29
Nurse union condemns CDC decision cause they'll be dealing with maskholes post holiday surge uponit7771 May 2021 #8
Yes, they are probably concerned with increased hospitalizations and limited resources LeftInTX May 2021 #15
Yes. I'm sure that the unmasked/unvaccinated are the ones primarily at risk from here on out, tanyev May 2021 #16
How does masking vaxed "dead enders" help the unvaxed? vanlassie May 2021 #35
Required masking helped the unvaxed. tanyev May 2021 #36
So this thought process is "if the rest of us wear masks, the unvaxed will feel OK to vanlassie May 2021 #38
No, the thought process is "if everyone is required to wear masks in certain places, tanyev May 2021 #39
Got it. Someone needs to make sure, since they have shit for brains, vanlassie May 2021 #40
The rate of new hospitalizations have declined 76% from their peak in Jan. Yavin4 May 2021 #21
at this point, you can protect yourself w/o a mask. mopinko May 2021 #9
You mean those 0-11 year old assholes? Who have no choice? Ms. Toad May 2021 #48
No, it is not the right move. How many deaths are acceptable?? 58Sunliner May 2021 #11
The vaccine is available to every american from age 12 Karma13612 May 2021 #19
"I am trying to think of another analogy..." Try smoking cigarettes. Yavin4 May 2021 #22
This message was self-deleted by its author Maxheader May 2021 #12
Should've added guidance for operators of buildings where lots of vaccination statuses are unknown sciencescience May 2021 #17
Other experts disagree Doc Sportello May 2021 #20
A correct decision dalton99a May 2021 #24
K&R DesertRat May 2021 #27
I'll probably wear mine until Mr.Bill May 2021 #37
Great post. I'm glad I stumbled upon this. Bookmarking. Thanks. ❤ littlemissmartypants May 2021 #47
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