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33. There are a lot of words that have been perverted by the media from what Webster says
Fri Jun 11, 2021, 02:10 AM
Jun 2021

In English, "Liberal" used to mean generous, free-thinking, ample, etc. In Foxese, it just means "Democrat."
In English, "Conservative" used to mean cautious, risk-averse, old-fashioned, etc. In Foxese, it just means "Republican."

In English, "socialism" used to designate a form of economy in which the government owned and governed the means of production. In Foxese, it just means "anything a Democrat wants or proposes."

I will cede this much: anytime there has been a government that has claimed to be "socialist," it ends up being a country whose people want out. I visited the "realexistierender Sozialismus" of East Germany when it was still that, and it was a scary place. I don't blame the people who lived there for risking their lives to escape. They even had laws on the books that forbade more than four people sitting together in a public place, because, you know, they might exchange ideas (horrors!). I was invited by the Cuban government to visit them for a few days in the 1980s. They chauffeured me around and kept an eye on me, as was to be expected, but allowed me enough contact with non-government people to get to find out what they thought of the place (they wanted out, albeit with a "the grass is always greener" overtone), and the government knew I spoke Spanish and Russian. I once even ended up in a situation where I had to translate back and forth between a Soviet air crew and the locals. The Russians never found out I wasn't Cuban, but the Cuban I helped out had bulgy eyes when I let on where I was from.

Preach it to the choir, Baby RANDYWILDMAN Jun 2021 #1
We already have some forms of "socialism"...public drinking water" and my running water Stuart G Jun 2021 #2
The water level of Lake Michigan LittleGirl Jun 2021 #48
Southern shores (New Buffalo, Michigan City) also very high Moostache Jun 2021 #53
Yup, all that is gone. LittleGirl Jun 2021 #54
Kickin' Faux pas Jun 2021 #3
Cool beans. Nevilledog Jun 2021 #4
Lol Faux pas Jun 2021 #5
Another form of........"Socialism".......free public education k - 12 grade... Stuart G Jun 2021 #6
It used to be that the rich got all the advantages and nobody complained FakeNoose Jun 2021 #7
What crisis? Voltaire2 Jun 2021 #8
Amen Joinfortmill Jun 2021 #9
This is excellent malaise Jun 2021 #10
Exactly, and it's only going to get worse from here. Much, much, much worse. Yavin4 Jun 2021 #11
Why do we have to rehab the word "socialist" when it was used by the Nazis, pnwmom Jun 2021 #12
TBH, I don't know more than a couple of people who consider themselves socialist. Ferrets are Cool Jun 2021 #15
AOC and Bernie, for example. nt pnwmom Jun 2021 #20
I don't think people are insisting on that label. Elessar Zappa Jun 2021 #16
Tell that to Bernie and his supporters. pnwmom Jun 2021 #24
Words like socialism get a lot of shorts in a bunch here in the God Ol' U S of A. Progressive Jones Jun 2021 #17
Right. So why brand ourselves with a term that doesn't exactly mean what we intend pnwmom Jun 2021 #21
Who is this WE? If I were to believe your post as 100% truth, I would think that Ferrets are Cool Jun 2021 #22
Many Democrats use the word "socialism" to describe Democratic policies pnwmom Jun 2021 #23
We should stop feeding into the meme that socialism is bad Ferrets are Cool Jun 2021 #28
I disagree. We should stop branding ourselves with a term that doesn't express our real policies pnwmom Jun 2021 #30
There you go again with the WE keep branding ourselves with the Socialist term. Ferrets are Cool Jun 2021 #38
"the means of production are socially and collectively owned or controlled" luvtheGWN Jun 2021 #41
You're making my point. Canada, the UK, Scandinavia etc. are not socialist. pnwmom Jun 2021 #46
There are a lot of words that have been perverted by the media from what Webster says DFW Jun 2021 #33
The word got a bad rap when it was recognized as the policy of Hitler & Mussolini. That's changing napi21 Jun 2021 #31
As I've heard it and read it, when Hitler and his and his freaks started up their "NAZI" party, Progressive Jones Jun 2021 #32
Still, there is no word shortage. So there's NO need to try to rehab that word. pnwmom Jun 2021 #34
Your last 2 sentences should be broadcast loudly oldsoftie Jun 2021 #36
The wealthiest Americans really mismanage their trickle. nt Baked Potato Jun 2021 #13
If only Ferrets are Cool Jun 2021 #14
Human nature. OldBaldy1701E Jun 2021 #37
Well, that pretty much sums it all up in a nutshell. BigmanPigman Jun 2021 #18
Righteous rant. It's like Putin says, we are just better at hiding who we really have become. It Pepsidog Jun 2021 #19
Anyone who's getting Social Security The Wizard Jun 2021 #25
K&R. JudyM Jun 2021 #26
Welcome to socialism. K and R oasis Jun 2021 #27
K n R ! JoeOtterbein Jun 2021 #29
It has nothing to do with "socialism" or "capitalism" oldsoftie Jun 2021 #35
200th KnR n/t Hugin Jun 2021 #39
K&R. That's a keeper. yonder Jun 2021 #40
Words colsohlibgal Jun 2021 #42
You're talking about papa3times Jun 2021 #43
Mr. Field seems to have hit every one of those nails right on the head. BobTheSubgenius Jun 2021 #44
But they've 40% of the population convinced that "they'll take ma truck and give it to the n***ers!" peppertree Jun 2021 #45
Let's help fabulously wealthy people get even wealthier IronLionZion Jun 2021 #47
I've seen this multiple times in Facebook LittleGirl Jun 2021 #49
Nailed it! chwaliszewski Jun 2021 #50
This crisis has one cause: Republicans, greedy, selfish, mean Republicans. rickyhall Jun 2021 #51
Crony Capitalism at it's finest hour? Brainfodder Jun 2021 #52
He sure did nail it. calimary Jun 2021 #55
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