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hardluck

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19. Started with the Newhall Shootout in 1970
Tue Jul 13, 2021, 02:15 PM
Jul 2021

In which four CHPs were killed, one of which was killed while trying to reload his service revolver from a dump pouch. This led to the rapid introduction of speed loaders, and well as tactical changes emphasizing officer safety. Police started to transition from revolvers to semiautos with the introduction of the Beretta M92 by the military and its adoption by the LAPD. Many of the modern 9mm semiautos were developed and introduced around this time, including the Glock.

The Miami shootout in 1986 also had a significant impact of officer equipment and tactics. One of the perps was armed with a mini-14, while most of the agents were still armed with revolvers or 9mm semiautos. They were at a significant disadvantage. One of the agents was able to shoot the suspect with a 9mm but it failed to penetrate to his heart (was shot from the side). It was a fatal shot but he kept in the fight and continued to engage and shoot the agents. After that, the FBI went to a more powerful handgun round, the 10mm. But it ended up being too difficult for many to shoot and a lower power round, the 40 cal. was developed.

As others have mentioned, the North Hollywood shootout then brought AR style rifles down from dedicated SWAT team to the officer in the field (or in the case of the LAPD to designated sergeants).

As to some of the other equipment, the pepper spray and tasers were developed as less than lethal devices to supplement and eventually, in essence, replace the traditional side-handled baton. The baton is a good weapon for many instances but sticks take a lot of training and continual practice and frankly, the police departments are not very good at providing that training, and many of the officers are not interested in it. It's easier to provide the quick training on using pepper spray and tasers.

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That's nailing it. You wrapped up the whole NRA/Wayne LaPierre taint in one.... brush Jul 2021 #1
Great post K&R berniesandersmittens Jul 2021 #2
The North Hollywood Shootout Srkdqltr Jul 2021 #3
Per Lethal Weapon. Ferrets are Cool Jul 2021 #8
No. Not Lethal Weapom. Don't be absurd . Srkdqltr Jul 2021 #15
Went to B&B Guns out here in the valley to get rifles and their shotguns and pistols had no effect hardluck Jul 2021 #23
I also think this was a turning point. those guys had body armor and AK-47s IcyPeas Jul 2021 #34
"Charming cop show"? WhiskeyGrinder Jul 2021 #4
Comparatively speaking, yes, it was. Ferrets are Cool Jul 2021 #7
You're right. It was. PCIntern Jul 2021 #9
Compared to... WhiskeyGrinder Jul 2021 #12
The real life shit they do now Ferrets are Cool Jul 2021 #47
The LAPD at the time was worse than it is now but maybe not as well armed. hunter Jul 2021 #13
Both Dragnet and Adam-12 were copaganda in real time. WhiskeyGrinder Jul 2021 #18
How about hill street blues? Propaganda? Mosby Jul 2021 #21
Sure. WhiskeyGrinder Jul 2021 #24
LOL geardaddy Jul 2021 #29
Authoritarianism is easy. Democracy, equality is hard NewHendoLib Jul 2021 #5
Bingo!! Ferrets are Cool Jul 2021 #6
Saw a cop in IHOP a couple of weeks ago... Wounded Bear Jul 2021 #10
I've seen some of them and wondered halfulglas Jul 2021 #48
Ahh the good ole days. multigraincracker Jul 2021 #11
There was an article several years ago about the impact of switching uniforms from CrispyQ Jul 2021 #14
What happened? Reagan. Grins Jul 2021 #16
⬆︎THIS⬆︎ Auggie Jul 2021 #26
Preach brother! HAB911 Jul 2021 #17
Started with the Newhall Shootout in 1970 hardluck Jul 2021 #19
Ask the surviving Koch brother and his pals who fund weaponry mayhem, who invested in Dick Cheney's Ford_Prefect Jul 2021 #20
When was the last time the Fire Department got a cat out of a tree? brooklynite Jul 2021 #22
Yep, they've moved on to ducks. WhiskeyGrinder Jul 2021 #27
You can thank the war on drugs as far as the police YMB Jul 2021 #25
John Oliver nails it: Initech Jul 2021 #28
Oliver is the best. Under The Radar Jul 2021 #40
When I saw the Police Militarization segment... Initech Jul 2021 #41
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In otherwords, in spite of a massive buying of weapons quakerboy Jul 2021 #51
Also, gangs intrepidity Jul 2021 #33
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When I watched Bowling For Columbine BigmanPigman Jul 2021 #35
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The best line was the last. Under The Radar Jul 2021 #39
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Late 1960's Marthe48 Jul 2021 #49
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