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AndyS

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22. You mean like having to get a permit to exercise your first amendment right to free speech

Sun Jul 18, 2021, 01:24 PM

Jul 2021

and assembly? Or a requirement to hire security at such events for the protection of the public?

Or laws about libel, slander and the like? Shouting fire in a theater? Public endangerment?

There are NO absolute rights.

May I suggest you find out who authored the 2nd and what that author thought about what a militia is and what well regulated means? Just some light reading . . .

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Your unseen gun violence tax. [View all] AndyS Jul 2021 OP

Gun owners are a part of the same tax paying public. We all share in paying for misdeeds. SYFROYH Jul 2021 #1

Okay, so you're saying that the people who aren't part of the problem should shoulder the AndyS Jul 2021 #3

That's how we solve most of our problems in this country - general taxes. SYFROYH Jul 2021 #48

Most but not all. AndyS Jul 2021 #51

The second amendment is bullshit. Just as the 3/5 person clause was bullshit. hunter Jul 2021 #19

I think Americans have a complicated relationship with guns and the RKBA. SYFROYH Jul 2021 #49

I'm not gonna cry for the gun fetishists... hunter Jul 2021 #50

I will be quite surprised if this survives the court challenge. Dial H For Hero Jul 2021 #2

I know, you're always surprised when responsible gun owners are asked to be . . . AndyS Jul 2021 #4

Actually, I'm not at all suprised when those in favor of more gun control pass such laws. Dial H For Hero Jul 2021 #5

And I'm not at all surprised when 'law abiding gun owners' refuse to obey laws. nt AndyS Jul 2021 #7

And how likely do you think it that this law will survive the court challenge? Dial H For Hero Jul 2021 #8

Just as likely as a gunner is to obey a law . . . AndyS Jul 2021 #9

I'm happy to discuss this issue calmy and rationally, but this doesn't appear to be the thread Dial H For Hero Jul 2021 #10

Really? Now I'm not being calm while you go pout in the corner? Ha! AndyS Jul 2021 #11

I can help you both. LiberatedUSA Jul 2021 #25

Thanks for trying to clarify but I really am talking about gunners not obeying any AndyS Jul 2021 #36

How likely do you think I enjoy basking in... discntnt_irny_srcsm Jul 2021 #32

"God Given Right!" - Must be a weak God if they are so worried that it can be taken away so easily keithbvadu2 Jul 2021 #6

I think this is a good approach pandr32 Jul 2021 #12

Great idea. nt GoodRaisin Jul 2021 #13

Risk management bucolic_frolic Jul 2021 #14

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Where in the 2nd do you find an absolute right? nt AndyS Jul 2021 #16

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You mean like having to get a permit to exercise your first amendment right to free speech AndyS Jul 2021 #22

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Hmmm, disturbing the peace? AndyS Jul 2021 #27

That was about as comprehensive an internet ass-kicking as I have ever witnessed. 11 Bravo Jul 2021 #47

No, AndyS is not putting words in your mouth mountain grammy Jul 2021 #28

While we're at it, limit kinetic energy of bullets. CaptainTruth Jul 2021 #17

Velocity and KE are related sarisataka Jul 2021 #29

So basically ban all rifles? hack89 Jul 2021 #45

AK-47 owners: Roy Rolling Jul 2021 #18

Hope y'all don't get shot today. twodogsbarking Jul 2021 #21

"gun owners carry insurance," I don't see a problem with that.. mitch96 Jul 2021 #24

How insurance works- sarisataka Jul 2021 #26

When the court cases are over, San Jose will be millions of dollars poorer NickB79 Jul 2021 #30

That's what I heard about: AndyS Jul 2021 #34

All those things were appealed to a much more liberal USSC in a different generation NickB79 Jul 2021 #39

I don't know. They've surprised us a few times. I'm not confident enough AndyS Jul 2021 #46

About fucking time YoshidaYui Jul 2021 #31

At best, this only a half step, Marcus Pullarius Jul 2021 #33

If only if it were that simple. 😕 ShazzieB Jul 2021 #44

The NRA supports this law btw. Since the NRA is the largest seller of gun insurance fescuerescue Jul 2021 #35

The NRA insurance isn't for liability against damage caused by gun violence but AndyS Jul 2021 #37

How long do you think will take before they will underwrite a plan? fescuerescue Jul 2021 #40

No insurance can be compelling to pay out for illegal acts by the policy holder NickB79 Jul 2021 #41

That is what gun owners should have to protect against damage to others. AndyS Jul 2021 #42

Which insurance companies can't be compelled to pay out for NickB79 Jul 2021 #43

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