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NickB79

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43. Which insurance companies can't be compelled to pay out for

Sun Jul 18, 2021, 03:45 PM

Jul 2021

A fund isn't the same as insurance. Gun owners pay an extra tax with every firearm and ammo purchase to fund wildlife conservation. That's how something like this could legally work. Add a "violence tax" to every gun and bullet sold within city limits, or at every gun range in town.

Using insurance policies for this purpose isn't legally feasible though. That's not how insurance works for these situations.

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Your unseen gun violence tax. [View all] AndyS Jul 2021 OP

Gun owners are a part of the same tax paying public. We all share in paying for misdeeds. SYFROYH Jul 2021 #1

Okay, so you're saying that the people who aren't part of the problem should shoulder the AndyS Jul 2021 #3

That's how we solve most of our problems in this country - general taxes. SYFROYH Jul 2021 #48

Most but not all. AndyS Jul 2021 #51

The second amendment is bullshit. Just as the 3/5 person clause was bullshit. hunter Jul 2021 #19

I think Americans have a complicated relationship with guns and the RKBA. SYFROYH Jul 2021 #49

I'm not gonna cry for the gun fetishists... hunter Jul 2021 #50

I will be quite surprised if this survives the court challenge. Dial H For Hero Jul 2021 #2

I know, you're always surprised when responsible gun owners are asked to be . . . AndyS Jul 2021 #4

Actually, I'm not at all suprised when those in favor of more gun control pass such laws. Dial H For Hero Jul 2021 #5

And I'm not at all surprised when 'law abiding gun owners' refuse to obey laws. nt AndyS Jul 2021 #7

And how likely do you think it that this law will survive the court challenge? Dial H For Hero Jul 2021 #8

Just as likely as a gunner is to obey a law . . . AndyS Jul 2021 #9

I'm happy to discuss this issue calmy and rationally, but this doesn't appear to be the thread Dial H For Hero Jul 2021 #10

Really? Now I'm not being calm while you go pout in the corner? Ha! AndyS Jul 2021 #11

I can help you both. LiberatedUSA Jul 2021 #25

Thanks for trying to clarify but I really am talking about gunners not obeying any AndyS Jul 2021 #36

How likely do you think I enjoy basking in... discntnt_irny_srcsm Jul 2021 #32

"God Given Right!" - Must be a weak God if they are so worried that it can be taken away so easily keithbvadu2 Jul 2021 #6

I think this is a good approach pandr32 Jul 2021 #12

Great idea. nt GoodRaisin Jul 2021 #13

Risk management bucolic_frolic Jul 2021 #14

Message auto-removed Name removed Jul 2021 #15

Where in the 2nd do you find an absolute right? nt AndyS Jul 2021 #16

Post removed Post removed Jul 2021 #20

You mean like having to get a permit to exercise your first amendment right to free speech AndyS Jul 2021 #22

Message auto-removed Name removed Jul 2021 #23

Hmmm, disturbing the peace? AndyS Jul 2021 #27

That was about as comprehensive an internet ass-kicking as I have ever witnessed. 11 Bravo Jul 2021 #47

No, AndyS is not putting words in your mouth mountain grammy Jul 2021 #28

While we're at it, limit kinetic energy of bullets. CaptainTruth Jul 2021 #17

Velocity and KE are related sarisataka Jul 2021 #29

So basically ban all rifles? hack89 Jul 2021 #45

AK-47 owners: Roy Rolling Jul 2021 #18

Hope y'all don't get shot today. twodogsbarking Jul 2021 #21

"gun owners carry insurance," I don't see a problem with that.. mitch96 Jul 2021 #24

How insurance works- sarisataka Jul 2021 #26

When the court cases are over, San Jose will be millions of dollars poorer NickB79 Jul 2021 #30

That's what I heard about: AndyS Jul 2021 #34

All those things were appealed to a much more liberal USSC in a different generation NickB79 Jul 2021 #39

I don't know. They've surprised us a few times. I'm not confident enough AndyS Jul 2021 #46

About fucking time YoshidaYui Jul 2021 #31

At best, this only a half step, Marcus Pullarius Jul 2021 #33

If only if it were that simple. 😕 ShazzieB Jul 2021 #44

The NRA supports this law btw. Since the NRA is the largest seller of gun insurance fescuerescue Jul 2021 #35

The NRA insurance isn't for liability against damage caused by gun violence but AndyS Jul 2021 #37

How long do you think will take before they will underwrite a plan? fescuerescue Jul 2021 #40

No insurance can be compelling to pay out for illegal acts by the policy holder NickB79 Jul 2021 #41

That is what gun owners should have to protect against damage to others. AndyS Jul 2021 #42

Which insurance companies can't be compelled to pay out for NickB79 Jul 2021 #43

This message was self-deleted by its author AndyS Jul 2021 #38