General Discussion

stopdiggin

(15,539 posts)

23. I think one of the big surprises here

Mon Aug 23, 2021, 11:40 PM

Aug 2021

was that the Afghan government didn't even make a pretense of trying to hold on to power.

(and part of that might have been pique that Biden wouldn't give Ghani what he asked for, namely air support and a delayed departure - essentially an extension of the status quo? Biden said, "No .. leaving means leaving ..".) And that, in large part, is what turned a scenario of perhaps months, perhaps a year and a half - that the government would hang on to at least Kabul - to a 10 day rout. And giving it the name 'rout' is a misnomer - because in the majority of places there was no fighting at all. In short, the Afghan army, and the government, just walked away. And I keep wondering if some of that wasn't - one last middle finger to Biden and the Americans?

Edit history

Please sign in to view edit histories.

Recommendations

0 members have recommended this reply (displayed in chronological order):

41 replies

= new reply since forum marked as read

Highlight:

Schiff just left a classified intel briefing on Afghanistan and broke a significant amount of news. [View all] Yorkie Mom Aug 2021 OP

Thank you so much for the post Hekate Aug 2021 #1

What's the point of Monday morning quarterbacking? Deminpenn Aug 2021 #2

This is NOT Monday morning quarterbacking! Yorkie Mom Aug 2021 #3

They are undermining what Biden has said about Deminpenn Aug 2021 #4

Are you saying Adam Schiff is lying? Yorkie Mom Aug 2021 #6

Not at all Deminpenn Aug 2021 #8

It's becoming obvious many want to undermine Biden madville Aug 2021 #9

Respectfully, you are barking up the wrong tree. Yorkie Mom Aug 2021 #12

With all of Biden's experience in the Senate, wnylib Aug 2021 #32

I don't believe that for a minute NJCher Aug 2021 #30

Well said and I agree. wnylib Aug 2021 #34

Exactly...when panic ensues in a crowd it's impossible to stop PortTack Aug 2021 #7

Oversight is literally their job Sympthsical Aug 2021 #11

Will Schiff be crucified like Moulton, Himes, and others critizing Afghan mess? Hoyt Aug 2021 #5

He should be. This is why they lose elections. Thrill Aug 2021 #18

Kind of like the honesty and criticism when due, myself. Hoyt Aug 2021 #20

Mho...there was no way to get out of there that wasnt gonna be some kind of sloppy. Volaris Aug 2021 #19

I see you got your answer. Yorkie Mom Aug 2021 #22

Nothing new here people Aug 2021 #10

It pretty much backs up what Biden and his administration were saying . .. Lovie777 Aug 2021 #13

☝️☝️☝️☝️☝️☝️ PortTack Aug 2021 #15

I agree rockfordfile Aug 2021 #35

Indeed, and I came across a warning from April: Qutzupalotl Aug 2021 #40

I keep thinking about the Berlin airlift that occurred to stop the blockade of essential goods. Grasswire2 Aug 2021 #14

That is essentially what has been done. Massive numbers and full planes. Non Stop. vanlassie Aug 2021 #28

I saw some reporting about that this evening.... Grasswire2 Aug 2021 #29

MAGA Make Afghanistan Great Again keithbvadu2 Aug 2021 #16

The question needs to be answered. Why were so many Americans over there? Thrill Aug 2021 #17

Bush/Cheney/Rumsfeld Shock and Awe Shit Show agingdem Aug 2021 #24

true rockfordfile Aug 2021 #36

What I don't get, is why everyone is focused on the time table. Xolodno Aug 2021 #21

right NJCher Aug 2021 #31

I think one of the big surprises here stopdiggin Aug 2021 #23

Left "a classified intel briefing on Afghanistan"? Grins Aug 2021 #25

The obsessing over how quickly Afghanistan fell is NoMoreRepugs Aug 2021 #26

Sure, that's one perspective Bucky Aug 2021 #38

Guess I should have worded it ..."one of the keys"... or ..."one of the most important keys".... NoMoreRepugs Aug 2021 #39

put blame where it need's to be . monkeyman1 Aug 2021 #27

Here's the CSPAN link Mersky Aug 2021 #33

I'm gonna really hate it if Biden screwed the pooch by sticking to Trump's timeline agreement Bucky Aug 2021 #37

Ending a war is not like a grade school fire drill. Irish_Dem Aug 2021 #41