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55. voter suppression also played a role

Sun Sep 5, 2021, 08:12 PM

Sep 2021

I'd really like to find out if voters were illegally removed from the rolls during the aforementioned dates and just how many

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For those claiming "we wouldn't be in this mess if RBG had retired under Obama," consider this: [View all] StarfishSaver Sep 2021 OP

I place zero blame on RBG. Elessar Zappa Sep 2021 #1

Certainly don't blame RBG. Lucky we had her. Those who helped elect trump deserve the blame. Hoyt Sep 2021 #2

Fuck that RBG shit Alpeduez21 Sep 2021 #3

Understood... wyn borkins Sep 2021 #4

Thank you! And thank RBG. niyad Sep 2021 #5

While I don't blame RBG for not retiring before 2014... Rollo Sep 2021 #6

"even with a Republican majority Senate, Obama could have appointed a moderate like John Roberts" StarfishSaver Sep 2021 #9

And THAT, Starfish, is facing TRUTH! MyOwnPeace Sep 2021 #40

Not retiring is overated. If you're ok financially and it doesn't negatively... brush Sep 2021 #10

Rollo, why are you describing the man who gutted the Voting Rights Act as a moderate? irisblue Sep 2021 #21

Thank you. sheshe2 Sep 2021 #7

RBG almost made it. If Repukes had followed their own rule, Biden would have replaced her. LakeArenal Sep 2021 #8

That really sucks Mad_Machine76 Sep 2021 #67

You are correct about people sitting out 2016. RBG wanted the Hillary, the first female president Dream Girl Sep 2021 #11

RBG in 2012 was not frail, she was extremely strong and StarfishSaver Sep 2021 #13

RBG shoulders some of the blame. Drunken Irishman Sep 2021 #12

Continuing to ignore the substantial role Democratic voters played in shaping the current SCt StarfishSaver Sep 2021 #14

Democratic voters DID deliver RBG an out in 2012 by reelecting Obama & keeping control of Senate Drunken Irishman Sep 2021 #22

Drunk, I Know What You're Saying COL Mustard Sep 2021 #26

I hope Breyer doesn't take to heart some of the arguments used her to defend RBG. Drunken Irishman Sep 2021 #89

Oh, please. StarfishSaver Sep 2021 #29

The difference is that Ruth Bader Ginsburg had a singular power that wasn't available pnwmom Sep 2021 #59

Seriously? StarfishSaver Sep 2021 #62

None of us AS INDIVIDUALS had the power to influence the composition of the SCOTUS pnwmom Sep 2021 #66

Maybe we should start calling on Sotomayor to retire now, too StarfishSaver Sep 2021 #71

Ginsburg's pancreatic cancer made her health much more precarious, and she was 10 years older. pnwmom Sep 2021 #75

I agree with your pushback replies on this subject nt Celerity Sep 2021 #76

This nt XanaDUer2 Sep 2021 #78

You are 100% right! Drunken Irishman Sep 2021 #93

Oh please. Drunken Irishman Sep 2021 #88

But she didn't retire in 2013 StarfishSaver Sep 2021 #92

Never said it was all her fault. Drunken Irishman Sep 2021 #94

WE did what we could, but SHE didn't do what she could. pnwmom Sep 2021 #95

The Justices are not responsible for ensuring a like-minded replacement. NH Ethylene Sep 2021 #16

Thank you SO much for this! StarfishSaver Sep 2021 #20

But If I Chose To Stay In My Job COL Mustard Sep 2021 #37

It's abhorrent for these people, whose choices impact an entire nation... Drunken Irishman Sep 2021 #24

Your point might make sense if RBG not retiring was the final nail in the coffin. But it wasn't StarfishSaver Sep 2021 #31

When it comes to Roe? Absolutely it is. Drunken Irishman Sep 2021 #90

She did her utmost to keep serving, even as she was dying! And you call her selfish. NH Ethylene Sep 2021 #36

So true! StarfishSaver Sep 2021 #41

Pancreatic cancer has a 9% 5-yr survival rate. Doremus Sep 2021 #80

Agreed. And that was on top of her fighting colon cancer a decade before. Drunken Irishman Sep 2021 #91

I have not seen those criticisms on here left-of-center2012 Sep 2021 #15

I haven't seen any either. gab13by13 Sep 2021 #17

It's a frequent refrain StarfishSaver Sep 2021 #19

I also see it said aloud frequently by progressives/leftists (outside of DU) Mad_Machine76 Sep 2021 #69

I assume your question has been answered ... StarfishSaver Sep 2021 #65

You're so right, StarfishSaver! littlemissmartypants Sep 2021 #18

Blame is useless and pointless. bronxiteforever Sep 2021 #23

In my view she undoubtedly believed her health would hold up long enough. iwannaknow Sep 2021 #25

True - she might also have had greater faith in Democratic voters than many deserved. StarfishSaver Sep 2021 #35

Gambled and lost. Bummer right? Tell that to women Texas. Nt JanMichael Sep 2021 #42

Her "gamble" didn't pay off because Democratic voters didn't do their part StarfishSaver Sep 2021 #47

Always someone else's fault I guess. Nader or Sarandon etc. JanMichael Sep 2021 #49

There's a difference between "acknowledging the fault of our heroes" and claiming that RBG "caused StarfishSaver Sep 2021 #52

I never said she caused the mess, Just a gamble and a BIG loss. JanMichael Sep 2021 #58

Her biggest gamble was trusting Democratic voters not to be selfish whiners who didn't give a damn StarfishSaver Sep 2021 #60

The only person that could control replacing RPG is RBG quitting. JanMichael Sep 2021 #70

Voters "couldn't make her quit," but they surely could have ensured that her replacement was StarfishSaver Sep 2021 #73

she could have easily prevented it, by stepping down sciencescience Sep 2021 #27

No, she couldn't. ismnotwasm Sep 2021 #28

Yes, she could have. She'd had pancreatic cancer, an extremely serious cancer, in 2009. pnwmom Sep 2021 #54

She took a chance. And then the VOTERS took a chance - several, in fact - long after she did StarfishSaver Sep 2021 #57

But millions of voters only had a tiny percent of a chance to influence the outcome of the elections pnwmom Sep 2021 #61

She didn't use that power you claim she had in 2012 StarfishSaver Sep 2021 #64

Are you claiming there's a doubt she had that power between 2012 and 2014? pnwmom Sep 2021 #74

And then, seeing she hadn't stepped down, Democratic voters could have stepped up to make sure StarfishSaver Sep 2021 #51

McTurtle is the only one to blame, he even went on GOPIV & bragged about it. nt yaesu Sep 2021 #30

Why blame McConnell for any of this StarfishSaver Sep 2021 #33

I Blame Breyer Too OhioTim Sep 2021 #32

Blaming him for what? StarfishSaver Sep 2021 #34

The window actually was literally any time between January 2009 and January 2015. ColinC Sep 2021 #38

The window was exactly as I described it. StarfishSaver Sep 2021 #43

two justices retired the first years of Obama's term. ColinC Sep 2021 #82

If the point of retiring is to let a president appoint a justice of his party, yes, I am saying that StarfishSaver Sep 2021 #84

Of course If they didn't do that, we would likely have an 8-1 conservative majority ColinC Sep 2021 #85

Do you ever post ANYTHING not designed to create internecine turmoil? 11 Bravo Sep 2021 #39

Interesting that you believe a thoughtful post explaining why one of our greatest heroes should not StarfishSaver Sep 2021 #44

First, look up "internecine". 11 Bravo Sep 2021 #45

Thank you. It's such an old, old trick to place blame on one woman's shoulders... Hekate Sep 2021 #46

And that "blame the woman" tactic is not limited to Republicans StarfishSaver Sep 2021 #48

put blame where it belongs , these arm chair politicians all of us ! monkeyman1 Sep 2021 #50

You have forgotten that she had 2 types of cancer. And the second was in 2009, pnwmom Sep 2021 #53

I haven't forgotten anything StarfishSaver Sep 2021 #56

Your post only said she'd had cancer ONCE. She'd had two types of cancer, pnwmom Sep 2021 #77

I said her previous cancer StarfishSaver Sep 2021 #81

Previous cancer isn't the same as previous cancerS. She was at higher risk than someone pnwmom Sep 2021 #86

Ok. Whatever. StarfishSaver Sep 2021 #87

voter suppression also played a role admonish Sep 2021 #55

I have not been a fan of this RBG bashing Mad_Machine76 Sep 2021 #63

I don't blame her. Snackshack Sep 2021 #68

I agree with everything you wrote except "Dems let him do it with little more than Collins concern" StarfishSaver Sep 2021 #72

Thank you for being the voice of sanity, StarfishSaver. crickets Sep 2021 #79

Apparently, it's all her fault StarfishSaver Sep 2021 #83