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38. K&R

Reply to CousinIT (Original post)

Mon Nov 1, 2021, 08:49 PM

Nov 2021

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Joe Manchin NEVER INTENDED to let BBB pass in any form. He wants ONLY the BIF passed. [View all] CousinIT Nov 2021 OP

How will we ever know? FBaggins Nov 2021 #1

lol qazplm135 Nov 2021 #5

Well... if your translation of his position is as accurate as your guess at mine... FBaggins Nov 2021 #7

you've posted more than enough qazplm135 Nov 2021 #8

As I implied above FBaggins Nov 2021 #9

lol "How will we ever know?" bluewater Nov 2021 #12

Looks like we'll find out soon enough FBaggins Nov 2021 #26

+10000000000000000 Celerity Nov 2021 #27

Agreed berni_mccoy Nov 2021 #2

Pull the bif and start over. This time start the reconciliation negotiations at 20T ColinC Nov 2021 #3

Which you think results in what? FBaggins Nov 2021 #10

He was adamant at getting the bif through, and it isn't happening unless he can compromise ColinC Nov 2021 #13

I don't think that I would make that bet FBaggins Nov 2021 #17

Same. Although I don't see a ton of good options if he sticks to his way or the highway ColinC Nov 2021 #21

Maybe not "good options"... but there's a clear option FBaggins Nov 2021 #25

Oh he isn't lying, he still hasn't committed to voting for it. ColinC Nov 2021 #31

But to add that even if he doesn't vote for it, he is in a place where ColinC Nov 2021 #32

Pass both or pass neither. We need to end his extortion of the Dem party. LonePirate Nov 2021 #4

Manchin's @$$ has been kissed enough. CentralMass Nov 2021 #6

What an ironic post FBaggins Nov 2021 #11

Manchin only wants BIF. He wants BBB to fail. If he won't pass BBB then his precious BIF should die. LonePirate Nov 2021 #14

How strange FBaggins Nov 2021 #15

no it's Manchin's Bill qazplm135 Nov 2021 #16

I don't think I'm the one that's confused. FBaggins Nov 2021 #19

so he announced his support qazplm135 Nov 2021 #22

at least the same as qazplm135 Nov 2021 #18

As soon as someone says that... you'll have a point FBaggins Nov 2021 #23

I get that you are doing an audtion for Manchin's press secretary qazplm135 Nov 2021 #24

It's been what 6 months? Is asking for his commitment now really so much to ask? ColinC Nov 2021 #34

Then we continue using that leverage against him wellst0nev0ter Nov 2021 #20

Nope FBaggins Nov 2021 #28

Sounds like progressives are ready to vote for both bills wellst0nev0ter Nov 2021 #29

No - it sounds like the decoupling is complete FBaggins Nov 2021 #33

Progressive have approached the holdouts wellst0nev0ter Nov 2021 #35

The President and the other 48 in the caucus were onboard with the $3.5 trillion bill to begin with. CentralMass Nov 2021 #36

The President also asked the House to pass BIF last week FBaggins Nov 2021 #37

Manchin can go pound sand. CentralMass Nov 2021 #40

History will not look kindly on him. LiberalFighter Nov 2021 #30

K&R UTUSN Nov 2021 #38

K&R UTUSN Nov 2021 #39