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Silent3

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30. It's not a material wealth decline I'm concerned about, it's an intellectual and social decline

Mon Nov 1, 2021, 08:03 PM

Nov 2021

Republicans most definitely have a possible successful coup within their grasp.

We have racist grievances and bat-shit crazy fringe conspiracy theories as the platform of one of the two major political parties in this country.

We have a system where a minority party can most definitely rig things to rule from the minority, and it working its hardest right now to do so.

We have a major political party which has become utterly shameless about embracing lawlessness, corruption, and police brutality.

We've barely survived a serious coup attempt, and so far very little accountability for it, and only for the underlings, not for the coup leaders.

None of this would have been possible without one third of the country being Fox News-swilling zealots and bigots, and other third being disengaged, misinformed, and uninformed.

Yes, we have a lot of good, but if the bad part seizes power in an authoritarian manner, the good can only do so much.

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I filled out a web form a few days ago about emigration to New Zealand [View all] Silent3 Nov 2021 OP

I'd Very Much Like To Move To Denmark SoCalDavidS Nov 2021 #1

I'd rather move to an English-speaking country, which reduces my options Silent3 Nov 2021 #3

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A big part of that "best of" consideration is cost of living Silent3 Nov 2021 #6

The problem with Mexico: Irregular, non-standard construction LeftInTX Nov 2021 #36

I have a couple of friends who moved to Portugal and never regretted a second of it. They love it ZonkerHarris Nov 2021 #39

I understand Ireland is pretty easy to emigrate to. PortTack Nov 2021 #4

Only very close ancestry... regnaD kciN Nov 2021 #24

Policing the world without being asked @800 billion $ a year...America can not be N.Z. Alexander Of Assyria Nov 2021 #5

Policing the world is an impossible task. hunter Nov 2021 #9

Good luck, they are strict and require quite a bit of money DetroitLegalBeagle Nov 2021 #7

I can easily meet the 2yr temp requirements, and more... Silent3 Nov 2021 #10

Well thats the hard part lol DetroitLegalBeagle Nov 2021 #11

That's exactly the case... regnaD kciN Nov 2021 #25

This. And I imagine more desirable nations will lower quotas Hortensis Nov 2021 #26

I think bottom line for Canada SCantiGOP Nov 2021 #8

My wife got a job offer there, once upon a time. hunter Nov 2021 #12

I don't have much family here anyway Silent3 Nov 2021 #16

Very tough to emigrate to, particularly if you are a US Citizen. Xolodno Nov 2021 #13

Yes, I believe it's one of the hardest. They used to have a conformed employment requirement. TheBlackAdder Nov 2021 #42

I think the US has a good future ahead. Steelrolled Nov 2021 #14

Ignore an authoritarian government? Silent3 Nov 2021 #17

I guess I don't see an authoritarian government that I have to ignore. Steelrolled Nov 2021 #19

If anything, our media isn't taking the threat to democracy seriously enough Silent3 Nov 2021 #23

This is not an authoritarian state yet, so please don't ignore what we have Hortensis Nov 2021 #27

It's not a material wealth decline I'm concerned about, it's an intellectual and social decline Silent3 Nov 2021 #30

As I said. Be the intellectual and social contributor Hortensis Nov 2021 #34

good luck with the 'out of sight, out of mind' gambit Celerity Nov 2021 #18

Been working for years for me - your mileage may vary. Steelrolled Nov 2021 #21

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Before WWII, Some Jews Fled FrankTC Nov 2021 #20

Good plan world wide wally Nov 2021 #22

Our son wanted to move to New Zealand about 15 years ago. Hortensis Nov 2021 #28

I am a bit worried about the rise of Chinese power if the US collapses... Silent3 Nov 2021 #32

I wouldn't let that dissuade me from doing what Hortensis Nov 2021 #38

I don't like the idea of having to keep my head down Silent3 Nov 2021 #44

All that certainly makes sense, including that there'd reason to be Hortensis Nov 2021 #46

I would go there in a flipping heart beat if I could afford to bring Maru Kitteh Nov 2021 #29

My SIL and family moved to NZ ten years ago... brooklynite Nov 2021 #31

New Zealand looks beautiful! lucca18 Nov 2021 #33

If you're adventurous... you can live in the EU (mostly) without residency WarGamer Nov 2021 #35

Best decision I ever made. meadowlander Nov 2021 #37

Tempting!! Ms. Toad Nov 2021 #40

Do it. Make the new chapter an adventure. LakeArenal Nov 2021 #41

I'm considering an adventurous retirement out of the U.S. Costa Rica looks beautiful. shrike3 Nov 2021 #45

If I was in a position to move to New Zealand I'd do it in a heartbeat. Crunchy Frog Nov 2021 #43