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Manchin and sinema are not moderates. Voltaire2 Nov 2021 #1
I would say they are Amishman Nov 2021 #4
Thank you. NurseJackie Nov 2021 #8
That puts them in the middle of the Senate. Susan Calvin Nov 2021 #14
Which puts them squarely in the "conservative" camp, NOT moderate. jaxexpat Nov 2021 #71
Bingo. nt Susan Calvin Nov 2021 #91
Govtrack would say otherwise. LiberalFighter Nov 2021 #27
still doesn't change that they are in the middle Amishman Nov 2021 #32
Yeah.......looks like we are loosing with the assholes in the middle. fwvinson Nov 2021 #35
if you mean we are losing elections due to independent voters turning away, then yes Amishman Nov 2021 #83
They are not moderates Farmer-Rick Nov 2021 #73
Bingo. nt Susan Calvin Nov 2021 #89
They most certainly are NOT Jilly_in_VA Nov 2021 #101
Govtrack totally ignores the reality of a long rightward slide KPN Nov 2021 #92
Took the words right out of my mouth. nt Susan Calvin Nov 2021 #13
THIS 👆🏻👆🏻👆🏻 LenaBaby61 Nov 2021 #16
A lot of things cost us Virginia Amishman Nov 2021 #2
+1 rampartc Nov 2021 #6
The Democrats response to covid cannot be underestimated n/t SayitAintSo Nov 2021 #12
I beg to differ. jcmaine72 Nov 2021 #3
the media is not our friend, that is for sure LymphocyteLover Nov 2021 #56
I agree with this. yardwork Nov 2021 #82
Yep mountain grammy Nov 2021 #109
The issue is the country is still split Buckeyeblue Nov 2021 #5
They use one wedge issue to frighten the public and gin up their base bucolic_frolic Nov 2021 #7
We didn't even make bank on Matt Gaetz and MTG and the insurrection. LenaBaby61 Nov 2021 #18
Yes. I seriously wonder as well. Evolve Dammit Nov 2021 #38
Why is that? Why don't we run on Republicans wanting the end of democracy? Buckeyeblue Nov 2021 #110
In order for lies to be believable, someone has to tell the truth bucolic_frolic Nov 2021 #112
CRT/Education and the Economy were by far the top issues in all exit polls Celerity Nov 2021 #9
Hear Hear, Ma'am! The Magistrate Nov 2021 #26
Aye. I'm afraid the OP is just classic, shoot-from-the-hip bothsiderism. Mister Ed Nov 2021 #46
I Agree, Sir The Magistrate Nov 2021 #51
Well said, Sir. I agree. yardwork Nov 2021 #88
+1 Jilly_in_VA Nov 2021 #103
Amen!!! McKim Nov 2021 #77
Exactly! I just wish I could speak a succinctly as Mr Ed. jaxexpat Nov 2021 #80
Well stated; spot on! Thank you. KPN Nov 2021 #76
Yep Yep WHITT Nov 2021 #78
I'm sick of it, too but typically , to JoanofArgh Nov 2021 #10
I don't know WestIndianArchie Nov 2021 #19
This is a Democratic Party forum. You might not belong JoanofArgh Nov 2021 #23
+1 betsuni Nov 2021 #25
Life Long democrat WestIndianArchie Nov 2021 #28
WE DON'T HAVE BIG ENOUGH MAJORITIES JoanofArgh Nov 2021 #37
+1 betsuni Nov 2021 #41
gotcha WestIndianArchie Nov 2021 #44
Just skip over Obamacare? happy feet Nov 2021 #43
No Public Option????? WestIndianArchie Nov 2021 #45
What Part Of 'Not Enough Votes In The Senate' Confuses You So, Sir? The Magistrate Nov 2021 #54
All of it. WestIndianArchie Nov 2021 #57
Good To Know, Sir The Magistrate Nov 2021 #70
We had a bigger majority in the House and Obamacare JoanofArgh Nov 2021 #55
Many Of Those Sixty Were Problematic, Ma'am The Magistrate Nov 2021 #60
Good points , Magistrate! JoanofArgh Nov 2021 #69
Machin was still governor of West Virginia at the time. Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin Nov 2021 #102
You're right! My mistake. Thanks for posting . JoanofArgh Nov 2021 #105
it's NOT fucking both sides LymphocyteLover Nov 2021 #61
+1 Drives me crazy. JoanofArgh Nov 2021 #87
me too! LymphocyteLover Nov 2021 #117
Yes, these factors seem to be much more of the problem LymphocyteLover Nov 2021 #59
Glenn Youngkin led Terry McAuliffe among "parents of K-12 children" by a margin of 56% to 39% janterry Nov 2021 #11
Too true liberalgunwilltravel Nov 2021 #15
Idiocracy FrankTC Nov 2021 #68
Post removed Post removed Nov 2021 #17
That's about as far from a Democratic position stopdiggin Nov 2021 #104
Hmm... Mike Nelson Nov 2021 #20
So true: "The Media focus really matters". Mister Ed Nov 2021 #74
Probably not FBaggins Nov 2021 #21
I'm resigned to this. AngryOldDem Nov 2021 #22
2020 loss of House seats empedocles Nov 2021 #39
That's almost inevitable, frankly. I still see no signs that Dems in power Nay Nov 2021 #114
I think Republicans figured out long ago that most Americans pay little or no attention to politics. LaMouffette Nov 2021 #24
+1 It's a big problem and I'm not sure what to do JoanofArgh Nov 2021 #34
One small step would be to bring back civics courses in K-12 education. Although with radical Repubs LaMouffette Nov 2021 #40
Civics classes should be mandatory. JoanofArgh Nov 2021 #52
Where have civics classes been removed? AZSkiffyGeek Nov 2021 #62
Back to Basics! McKim Nov 2021 #84
"Only nine states and the District of Columbia require one year of U.S. government or civics" LaMouffette Nov 2021 #106
I'm really afraid it may be too late. AngryOldDem Nov 2021 #48
General education for the regular population will never recover from the advent of Nay Nov 2021 #115
McAuliffe had his own and Northam's records as Democratic governors of Virginia to run on Klaralven Nov 2021 #29
238 MEMBERS of the liberal Democratic caucuses were strongly united to produce our greatest Hortensis Nov 2021 #30
Agree. LBJ had major problems from the far left despite his great achievements. empedocles Nov 2021 #36
Yes. Unfortunately for them, LBJ had a Democratic trifecta during his presidency, Hortensis Nov 2021 #98
I Disagree, Ma'am The Magistrate Nov 2021 #42
The two senators had the power to do what they did. Hortensis Nov 2021 #108
there are 100 members in the House progressive caucus, not to mention they have the support of Biden LymphocyteLover Nov 2021 #66
Manchin and Sinema cost us Virginia. Roisin Ni Fiachra Nov 2021 #31
Yes I believe this is the case. Manchin's speech on election eve confirmed it. Irish_Dem Nov 2021 #50
I also believe this is the case. They are high-level ratfuckers who are being paid Nay Nov 2021 #113
Biden & Pelosi knew they needed and wanted to pass a bill, to show progress, to win. empedocles Nov 2021 #33
Horse Hockey Sherman A1 Nov 2021 #47
Republicans are Nazis. Democrats are cowards. The wealthy own Republicans and bought johnthewoodworker Nov 2021 #49
Or... McConnell, Manchin & Sinema preventing Biden from accomplishing his goals cost us Bucky Nov 2021 #53
Huge over-simpllification LymphocyteLover Nov 2021 #58
Manchin's Incentive Is To Sabotage FrankTC Nov 2021 #63
THIS!!! McKim Nov 2021 #96
just another old white guy Crazyleftie Nov 2021 #64
Amen!!! McKim Nov 2021 #93
This gives us insight into the course changes needed to keep the house and senate Torchlight Nov 2021 #65
Joe Manchin & Sinema cost us Virginia. Progressive & Moderate Dems were unified CousinIT Nov 2021 #67
There are 50 senators who are clearly to their right and 48 senators to their left... NurseJackie Nov 2021 #95
Technically WHITT Nov 2021 #72
You're right d_b Nov 2021 #75
This Was A Warning Shot About Next Year COL Mustard Nov 2021 #79
Exactly Sunsky Nov 2021 #81
This 👆 Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin Nov 2021 #107
"It's the media, stupid". NewHendoLib Nov 2021 #85
I don't agree. Most Democratic leaders are working very, very hard. yardwork Nov 2021 #86
+1 n/t area51 Nov 2021 #97
Totally disagree childfreebychoice Nov 2021 #90
Manchin and Sinema were bribed to kill the Dem agenda. Kablooie Nov 2021 #94
Well thought out! McKim Nov 2021 #100
maybe... myohmy2 Nov 2021 #99
No they didn't... not "progressives and moderates" meaning Congress failing to pass BBB FBaggins Nov 2021 #111
You are correct, at least to some degree. MineralMan Nov 2021 #116
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