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In reply to the discussion: I am an American Veteran. My fellow Americans, you need to get out of rural areas [View all]Scrivener7
(51,093 posts)5. I think, though, that rather than "What do the diner denizens think?" our question should be
"what does the math say?" Where have we lost by narrow margins? Remember, we lost by 70,000 votes divided among 3 states in 2016. Where is there a county in those areas that can be turned? What will it take to turn just that county and not alienate the existing Democrats and turn the state blue? You can make a splash in a county with relatively less money than you can among "rural voters" as a whole.
We certainly have the capability of looking at the data this way, and responding to the voters this way. But we don't seem to be doing it.
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maxrandb
Dec 2021
OP
I think, though, that rather than "What do the diner denizens think?" our question should be
Scrivener7
Dec 2021
#5
the math says at $1000/hr, RW radio is worth... about $5B/yr FREE (x15hrs/day x 1200 stations)
certainot
Dec 2021
#199
The radio is a problem, and I think it needs to be addressed, but that would take time.
Scrivener7
Dec 2021
#203
i think offense aimed at rw radio could have quick results. it would get media attn right away
certainot
Dec 2021
#207
Definitely. This, though, should just be one prong of a multi-pronged effort.
Scrivener7
Dec 2021
#234
Point of rant is that they AREN'T ignored. Rather, they ignore urban conditions
Bernardo de La Paz
Dec 2021
#17
STATES: The GOP Knows They Matter: 'Laboratories of Autocracy' David Pepper- Alec Kochs Gerrymanders
appalachiablue
Dec 2021
#168
Yes!! You just said what I've been feeling for a while, but wasn't able to articulate.
Biophilic
Dec 2021
#11
Considering how rural America likes to shop and vacation in the bigger cities.
LiberalFighter
Dec 2021
#12
I'm a 'libtard', socialist from rural Wisconsin. This is s Republican area. Let me inform you that
johnthewoodworker
Dec 2021
#18
How many rural hospitals and clinics would have gone bankrupt and closed without the ACA?
maxrandb
Dec 2021
#205
Good points, but without the Chicago Mercantile Exchange, and the Urban dwellers who work there,
Progressive Jones
Dec 2021
#166
The Ghost towns and ruins are largely due to Corporate takeover of farming and ranching.
Tommymac
Dec 2021
#176
The OP wishes people would care about the majority urban dwellers from time to time. nt
Gore1FL
Dec 2021
#158
It is directly quoted from the title of your post I was replying to a couple posts above.
Gore1FL
Dec 2021
#206
You keep stating things that I did not write. I can't help you with that.
twodogsbarking
Dec 2021
#211
A huge pet peeve of mine is the rural, very white Midwest being called 'The Heartland'
Celerity
Dec 2021
#27
In MI, 75% of the people who voted for TFG live in urban or mostly urban counties.
Kaleva
Dec 2021
#30
The Electoral College is the only reason anybody pays attention to rural America.
Fiendish Thingy
Dec 2021
#35
Many people have left and continue to leave Rural America to go live in Urban America.
chowder66
Dec 2021
#37
There may be disproportionate recruitment from rural areas, but those numbers are dubious
Mersky
Dec 2021
#126
My perception is that many or most rural (white) folks are racists. And...
Trust_Reality
Dec 2021
#151
yep, it's the radio. limbaugh killed more than hitler and stalin when you add up
certainot
Dec 2021
#197
"Maybe rural America should come over and share a few pitchers of water with a Flint Michigan Family
Hekate
Dec 2021
#63
Except that Dems need to appeal to rurals to GET THEIR VOTES, and that's the name of the game.
thesquanderer
Dec 2021
#65
I was just reading about the Farmers Alliance and Grange movement. Making money farming was almost
brewens
Dec 2021
#71
Yes, it's kind of like the "hard-scrabble", "salt if the earth" manly, he-man coal miner
maxrandb
Dec 2021
#215
If we had a marketing department we could respond that repubs are out of touch with the common good.
CrispyQ
Dec 2021
#80
The reason why people say that Dems need to reach out to rural America is because we want the Dems
totodeinhere
Dec 2021
#96
We've been doing that. What has it gotten us? We are on the brink of losing democracy AND
onecaliberal
Dec 2021
#146
Cool...Your post here has become a topic of conversation on Thom Hartmann's show.
Liberal In Texas
Dec 2021
#100
I got the exact same impression. Certainly makes me question spending time here.
twodogsbarking
Dec 2021
#174
You know for a fact that no DUer could handle the lifestyle you're talking about?
OnionPatch
Dec 2021
#220
So how does any of that address the lopsided resources rural America gets from M$M, pols, and voting
uponit7771
Dec 2021
#229
Do Urban businesses get subsidies to prevent their failure like rural farmers do? NO!
Ziggysmom
Dec 2021
#115
You miss the point entirely. We are winning in the urban areas but given how our government
Demsrule86
Dec 2021
#127
Dems don't have a messaging infrastructure like the kGOP in rural areas, haven't invested in it
uponit7771
Dec 2021
#230
Donor means giver. California is a donor state: we send more taxes to the feds than we get back. nt
Hekate
Dec 2021
#219
RNC is setting up community centers in urban areas where they invite Democrats and target minorities
LeftInTX
Dec 2021
#138
But there was that huge push in 2016 for Republicans to understand Hillary voters!
Beartracks
Dec 2021
#178
I don't know why people think Steve Bullock has anything to teach Democrats . . .
markpkessinger
Dec 2021
#181
I don't know why people think Steve Bullock has anything to teach Democrats . . .
markpkessinger
Dec 2021
#182
The Independent voter resides everywhere. And it is they who decide elections.
oldsoftie
Dec 2021
#183
And there are states like Texas that we can win in a few years without a single rural vote
RB TexLa
Dec 2021
#184
Continuing to believe its just the rurals who worry about those things is a mistake.
oldsoftie
Dec 2021
#225
Seriously, America was forged in Boston and Philadelphia and the immigrant slums of NY
AdamGG
Dec 2021
#194
I'm tired of this mythical 'Dems need to reach out to rural America' bullshit.
Abolishinist
Dec 2021
#196
The hidden assumption is that rural Murikkka is too damn dumb and irrational
librechik
Dec 2021
#210
We can't control what the media does. We CAN control what the Party and its candidates do.
brooklynite
Dec 2021
#239